Are All IFBB Pros Blasting N' Cruising?
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truth, lobliner speaks openly on this and I think is one of the honest ones out there in regards to this.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
I heard that Ronnie Coleman would run a pct consisting of a gram of test and a gram of deca for 12 weeks.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
One of the only truthful things he says. The rest of his time goes into defending his "natural" buddy Doug Miller.
Wellbif he said that its truth but hes one of the biggest piece of shit liars out there. He protects and lies for the so called "fake nattys" he lies about usage doses down plays gear to the extreme and pushes worthless supplements
I would listen more carefully to him... He made a vid saying why would you expect doug miller and all these other "natty" guys to come out and say they are on drugs if they stand to lose all their endorsements, affiliations, titles. He basically said no chit they aren't natty, but do you really expect them to come out and say it? So on one hand yea he is encouraging/allowing them to compete in natural leagues, but at the same time he's basically admitting without saying it that let's not be ridiculous clearly doug miller is using PEDs...
but on a side note I hear Kali muscle is natty and just eats ramen noodles for gainz.
Mrrippedzilla
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That is the big problem with lobiner.
This "coach" knowingly lets fake natties compete in natty leagues, and actually judges some contests and lets fake natties win - this shows how big a piece of shit he really is.
I actually coach REAL natty competitors so stuff like this annoys me on a personal level.
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On one hand, I despise fake nattys.
But on the other hand, should ppl really subject themselves to possible legal repercussions of admitting illegal drug usage, in the US. Also it seems to be part of the "game" in the fitness/supplement industry. The top level judges and politicians in fitness dont want mr. Olympia for example openly talking about illegal drug use. Supplement companies dont want sponsored athletes admitting illegal drug usage either.
In conclusion, the fitness/supplement industry is to blame for all of the fake nattys.
But on the other hand, should ppl really subject themselves to possible legal repercussions of admitting illegal drug usage, in the US. Also it seems to be part of the "game" in the fitness/supplement industry. The top level judges and politicians in fitness dont want mr. Olympia for example openly talking about illegal drug use. Supplement companies dont want sponsored athletes admitting illegal drug usage either.
In conclusion, the fitness/supplement industry is to blame for all of the fake nattys.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
He says guys like Kali and DLB should not admit usage, but he makes it very clear that he believes Doug is a natural. I know what naturals look like and it sucks to disrespect what they do when their are clowns out there like Miller who blow them away while supposedly being natural.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
I think that if people ask you if you are using then you should always deny. It's just messed up when you parade around bullshitting when no one asked if you are natural or not to begin with. Guys like Heath and Cutler don't run around saying they are natural but if someone asks them if they use steroids they will say no. That shit can get you locked up and make you lose all your endorsements. You are right about the sup industry fucking everything up but everyone is trying to make that money.
PortgasDAce
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mmmh the body doesn't create a tolerance if you stay on too much time?
Its when you go out of your way to deceive crouds and young kids that you look like this because you take creatine or you compete as a natural and win shows against real naturals makes you a scumbag.... anytime your deceiving for personal gain to make money off of the unknowing and give false hope= piece of shit FILT
tury694
Pale Gorilla
I don't know. That is a better question for Ripped Godzilla or the swole spongebob, but judging by how long bodybuilders like Arnold and Coleman stay successful I would say no.
You can have serious issues with health staying on those big doses for too long though.
Mrrippedzilla
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No one is saying that they should admit illegal drug use - they just shouldn't be claiming natty.
The best approach would be to ignore the "natty or not" question completely, no one is forcing these fake pieces of shit to make posts/videos about how they're "natty" and its all "hardwork".
Also, why are they competing in natty comps?
Because they don't have what it takes to go against the guys who are taking the same drugs as them - punk ass bitches.
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Mrrippedzilla
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Androgen receptors upregulate over time, so no.
The reason you will need higher and higher doses as the years go on is down to the fact that when you keep building muscle, you reach a point where your dose is enough to sustain mass but that's it.
Its similar to dieting, eventually you got to increase cals to keep growing.
snowpatrol123
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Mike ohearn was guest posing at a natural competition in eastern canada a few weeks ago; that guy also pisses me off to no end.
Of course most of the natural competitors are anything but, however I feel bad for the few that still are and all the hopefuls out there that believe his lies about "train hard/eat right for 30 years and you'll look like me"
Of course most of the natural competitors are anything but, however I feel bad for the few that still are and all the hopefuls out there that believe his lies about "train hard/eat right for 30 years and you'll look like me"
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