Are Blacks better than Whites?

CHIP WADOWSKI

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Now that I got everyones attention, the purpose of this thread is to try and find out if there is any medical data showing that the African-American athlete has any genetic predisposition to being superior to the Caucasion athlete? Over time, you hear so many different theories as to why major college and professional sports have been progressively dominated by the African-American athlete. Unsupported and seemingly illogical theories that thaw black athlete has an extra muscle in their leg? Theories stating that because African-Americans ancestors were forced to work so hard during the days of slavery, that their genetic make up was ultered as they had to adapt to horrible conditions and lifestyles? Then there are theories supporting the fact that because some of these kids have to fight so hard to get out of the inner city, that they just simply work harder because that is the only way that they know? In any event, it cannot be denied that most major sports are clearly dominated by the far superior strength and speed that the black athlete possesses.
 
most be it depend of the sport w're talking about.

their mucle are easly round are they usualy prone to be lean, so in BB they have their place ofcorse.

in pure strengh exercise, thr's a lot white and few of blacks.

One thing is sure, they are great singers!!
 
The purpose of the question is not to stir an asinine racial debate. It's because I am a former athlete of white descent, and I truly believe that African-Americans have more strength, speed, grace, and skill than whites and I am interested if there is proof of this, medically speaking and I'm not a chicken shit who is to afraid to open discussion on a topic that has been up for debate for a very long time.
 
The purpose of the question is not to stir an asinine racial debate. It's because I am a former athlete of white descent, and I truly believe that African-Americans have more strength, speed, grace, and skill than whites and I am interested if there is proof of this, medically speaking and I'm not a chicken shit who is to afraid to open discussion on a topic that has been up for debate for a very long time.

i doubt hightly than ther's a medical explication, cause it means medical studys, then volonters to make the comparaison for the study... it should be almost impossible.

but ther's statistics, usualy, yes, afro-americans have natural good skills than make hem prone to be great sportivs!
 
I think much of the success of American minorities comes from being in this country...basically freedom to succeed. When the American Dream is right there for the taking, poor neighborhoods can create some scrappy mofos! And maybe Afrcian Americans simply get more exposure because of the contributions to American Pop culture, music, dance, sports etc, etc and the messy Civil Rights Movement in the 60s.
I'm not too sure about the slavery angle. Humans have been enslaved for thousands of years going back further than building the pyramids. As far as genetics and so forth I have no clue. It would be interesting to see a breakdown of races/ethnicity in sports compared to the general population.

oh yeah did I mention dance? youtube.com/watch?v=e-Rnl7Orxdk
 
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You're gonna laugh Chip I tought of
posting this thread a few weeks back, I told mrs P "do u think maybe African Americans genetics kind of changed due to the conditions they had to adapt in order to survive back then under slavery ?

I mean it's not a secret they pretty much dominate every sport,but my findings are that we all are genetically equal,could it be
they were so opressed & the way they lived in such poberty, maybe this made them gain a strengh & just to prove that they could be more than they were account it for, they uncontionsly over prooved themselves in every aspect of life, including Sports & this became a way of life for them & there for for generations to come. So I do wonder if they are stronger, I would say they are mentally, more agressive.. You can do anything if you put your mind to it !
P.S up to this day in Cuba a Cominist Regime They are stil being descriminated by the whites, adn that's a comunist Cuntry were they preach that everyone is treated equally.
 
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I feel its evo;ution over thousands of years.look where they come from,and the physical factors that determined their survival in africa.then factor in selective breeding during the slavery period.Genetically they tend to be superb atheletes based on those factors.However tjey tend to have shorter lifespans.
 
The purpose of the question is not to stir an asinine racial debate. It's because I am a former athlete of white descent, and I truly believe that African-Americans have more strength, speed, grace, and skill than whites and I am interested if there is proof of this, medically speaking and I'm not a chicken shit who is to afraid to open discussion on a topic that has been up for debate for a very long time.

Subjective and racist bullshit aside, I don't think there's a serious answer to your question. It may exist somewhere, but I haven't heard of any recent studies that proves or disproves this. In any case, I'm not sure that such a study would provide much usable information. It would be problematic to make inferences from it because qualities such as strength, speed, and skill are measurable, but potential is not. And those measurements are not fixed so they will change since no athlete will consistently deliver a 'perfect 10' performance every single time. Consider that world records are broken all the time, and by people of all different ethnicities. Ergo, the sprint runner who is the fastest and the best this week might get his ass beat by the a runner of a different ethnicity in next week's heats. Further, potential will vary not according to ethnicity but according to each individual and how much training, drive, and determination they have, and the activities within which the comparisons would be done.

Other factors that don't necessarily have anything to do with ethnicity can also affect performance. For instance, a very tall, thin, white person with long legs may be able to win a 100m race over a short-statured, heavier, more muscular African American person---not necessarily because the white person is actually a faster runner but because he's carrying less body weight and because his longer legs can cover twice as much distance as the African American person may be able to in a single stride.

Hitler and Mengele were notorious for conducting numerous experiments which they had hoped would prove their theory that one particular ethnic group is better than others in a variety ways---including intelligence, ability, and endurance. We all know the rest of that story. Since those days I don't know that any serious researcher would want to go down that road again, either because they already have enough empirical evidence to know that they would be wasting their time or because they know that it would be extremely politically incorrect to publish research data which suggests that perhaps the Nazis might have been on to something after all. That is a shitbox I'm sure no one would be in a hurry to jump into unless they want to become a pariah to the whole world.
 
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The fasest way to change any species is selective breeding. I believe this is the largest factor of their great genetics. I also believe that the way people are breeding now is hurting us in USA. Poor stupid people have shitloads of kids (every color).
Highly educated sucessful people have 1 or 2.
I have a friend in prison (large white lifter) who says the most amazing thing he's ever seen was this young black crack addict who came into prison at like 125 lbs and within 8 months was benching 400lbs and dumbell curls with 80's at about 180 body wt. He's sure the kid was natural too.
 
A good example would be Ronnie Coleman. I don't think there is or was anyone better looking than him in his prime to include Arnold. I haven't seen too many bodybuilders train as heavy as him and able to cut down like him. Coleman had size, symmetry, and strength.
 
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/general-chat-forum/593829-you-think-youre-strong.html

I have no idea and like Bimmer said, probably a moot point anyway as subjectivity is impossible to measure. I think you're always gonna have the exceptions to every rule. Look at Lance Armstrong, all these studies of why his body seems to be designed to ride a bike like that. But is that because after years of riding his body 'evolved' in places to fit that profile... or was he born that way? Too hard to tell cuz they didn't study his ass at age 4, 10 and so on.

I know guys that have never pcked up a weight and could break my neck with no problem... I call it retard strength. Farm strength, whatever.

Genetics are one of those things that can never be answered. If for any reason that truth would scare the bible thumpers so much we'd have another Spanish Inquisition on our hands.

All i know, and I'm not a big sports guy, is it makes for quality entertainment in a number of venues. One of them being the thread I posted above. That dude is insane. No way in a million years could I do that. Is it because he's black and I'm white? Who knows?

And let's make sure we clarify... there is a difference between Black Americans and African-Americans. African-Americans are from Africa... not Detroit.

No one refers to me as an Irish/English-American. :D
 
But we still rule the world:)

What do you mean by "we"? The people 'who rule the world' are the people at the top of a society who own and control the means of production. And in any society, this is always limited to a relative handful of people compared to the masses. Do you own massive amounts of prime real estate, AND own large amounts of shares in multi-billion dollar conglomerates, AND are independently wealthy with millions upon millions of liquid dollars? If the answer to any of these questions is 'no' then "we" is not an appropriate word choice for that sentence.

Be careful of what you're insinuating. Why? Because: 1. ethnicity and skin color aren't necessarily the same thing; 2. in today's world, the color of money is far more relevant than the color of a person's skin; and 3. the people who actually rule the world are far more interested in other people who have money (so they can get together and make even more money) than they ever will be in people of a particular complexion who have nothing.
 
What do you mean by "we"? The people 'who rule the world' are the people at the top of a society who own and control the means of production. And in any society, this is always limited to a relative handful of people compared to the masses. Do you own massive amounts of prime real estate, AND own large amounts of shares in multi-billion dollar conglomerates, AND are independently wealthy with millions upon millions of liquid dollars? If the answer to any of these questions is 'no' then "we" is not an appropriate word choice for that sentence.

Be careful of what you're insinuating. Why? Because: 1. ethnicity and skin color aren't necessarily the same thing; 2. in today's world, the color of money is far more relevant than the color of a person's skin; and 3. the people who actually rule the world are far more interested in other people who have money (so they can get together and make even more money) than they ever will be in people of a particular complexion who have nothing.

:) = joking, haha, funny.

Settle down big fella. :D
 
What do you mean by "we"? The people 'who rule the world' are the people at the top of a society who own and control the means of production. And in any society, this is always limited to a relative handful of people compared to the masses. Do you own massive amounts of prime real estate, AND own large amounts of shares in multi-billion dollar conglomerates, AND are independently wealthy with millions upon millions of liquid dollars? If the answer to any of these questions is 'no' then "we" is not an appropriate word choice for that sentence.

Be careful of what you're insinuating. Why? Because: 1. ethnicity and skin color aren't necessarily the same thing; 2. in today's world, the color of money is far more relevant than the color of a person's skin; and 3. the people who actually rule the world are far more interested in other people who have money (so they can get together and make even more money) than they ever will be in people of a particular complexion who have nothing.

Well said Bimmer... Giving you green rep !
Now Calm down, lol we all know you proved your point. BTW Welcome to the board :)
 
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/general-chat-forum/593829-you-think-youre-strong.html

Genetics are one of those things that can never be answered. If for any reason that truth would scare the bible thumpers so much we'd have another Spanish Inquisition on our hands.
No one refers to me as an Irish/English-American. :D

What u talk bout Willis ?
Spanish Inquisition...Why u hating ?? you know I look like you but with a Spanish flare :D
p.s I also have Irish in me, I'm a mutt dog.
 
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