what i don't understand is everyone says that they test for drugs...I would assume that would mean Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) for a competition...but have been told its a street drug piss test??? I'm worrying about that right now for a contest I want to do in november...should I worrying about them testing for AAS????
riprockwell
New member
I cant really say that neccessarily everyone that competes is on gear, but there is a shitload of juicers in Natural shows. One other thing you have to think about is that bodybuilders are some of the craziest people when it comes to how they look. Most competitive bodybuilders will put their bodies to the extreme just to compete using a mass load of gear.
You have also recognize that at the time of the test a lot fo these guys are "natural" that doesn't mean they didn't use all the way up until the cutoff point. Most, nearly all, are not tested at these shows that claim they tes, because the promoters want the best looking guys on stage, they just say they test so they can talk about how good these "natural" athletes look, knowing full-well that many of them are on the supps.
Last years natural Mr Olympia lost his title a few months after the show when his test results came back positive, he's Australian. And I know of another Australian who cuts his gear 8-10 weeks before the world IFBB champs and passes. It's pretty much accepted at the world IFBB's though, they just have to test clean on the day!!
I think some do the right thing and I respect them but those guys that do natural shows that aren't natural, what losers!!!
I think some do the right thing and I respect them but those guys that do natural shows that aren't natural, what losers!!!
Blue Hen
'03 I-AA Champs
I just did a NPC tested show in May. They start the testing on Thursday at 3pm(polygraph). They tested for steroids and diueretics, open one year novice 5 years. The guy that won the show took the test at 3pm on THursday took his lasix after he passed and there you go. That was the last straw for me with the natural shows, at least the other shows are a level playing field.
Check out Skip LaCour´s homepage skiplacour.com and there you can find an article (I didnt paste a link because I couldnt find it at this moment) about so called NATURAL bbs. Shortly, there are 2 sorts of NATURAL bbs: one sort is they are ALL THE WAY natural because they have tests ALL THE TIME, not only before competition, second one you already know... tests are only before competitions so you can easily clean your body of the gear at that time. It depends on regulations and rules WHERE you compete.
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jocktheglide
New member
Im natural (now) ha ha ha, but overall i think most of those natural dudes are natural at all....
Dante44
youll never drink alone.
figure8 said:
Skip LaCouer is a NATURAL BORN LIAR, thats about it. Ive seen pics of him 6 months into training, his physique looks pretty normal for a non bodybuilder, and has a nice full head of hair, 3 months after that he looks jacked like a mother fucker and hes as bald as Homer J. Simpson...So, you tell me ,what happened? He and every professional bodybuilder out there is a FUCKING LIAR, they have to lie....thats how they make theyre bread....but i have more respect for IFBB PRO JUICERS, at least they admit to something.
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rockape76
Guest
depends what you term natural........if a natural is someone who doesnt use Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) .......then the answer is yes ........if a natural is someone who doesnt use drugs /enhancement at all then no.......
i know a few "naturals" they dont use Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) .........they just use the following
gh,slin,diuretics ,pro hormones, anti -estrogens,clonidine,site enhancement oil and a few other tricks i wont go into here......
i know a few "naturals" they dont use Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) .........they just use the following
gh,slin,diuretics ,pro hormones, anti -estrogens,clonidine,site enhancement oil and a few other tricks i wont go into here......
ManOfMuscle
Death Dealer
rockape76 said:
I don't see how anyone could take all that shit and still call themselves natural.
roccodart440
New member
LiftTillIDie said:
cosigns
The only true natural is lifetime natural and those federations test you randomly in and out of the competitions.
02gixxersix
New member
I think they are definitely natural. Many of them have random drug testing and lie detectors tests for all competitors. You have to have been clean for 2 years in most of the comps and then there are natural for life comps. This includes diuretics, gh, and clen as well. LMFAO at the guys who claim they can beat a lie detectors test. I'm sure it possible but I highly doubt there are more than a few if any people on this board that can fool a lie detecor test. How you can say it's easy just because a "spy" did it is beyond me because he was definitely a highly trained individual.
0nyx
Iron Man
02gixxersix said:
not trying to discredit you, but its more than just highly trained individuals that can beat lie detector tests. they are too unaccurate to be considered. that isn't the argument here...but you know..
anyways.. i think natty is someone who is natty 4 life. otherwise.. coleman lays off the juice for 4 months and says hes a natty.. just doesn't work out well in my books...
ppl who use Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) in natural comps are fucken losers..
02gixxersix
New member
you may be somewhat right about the lie detector test but I don't know. There are some people that say it is bogus but if that were the case there would be way more false positives on things such as this. I did a search and it seems that everyone who says lie detector tests are bullshit is trying to sell you a book to teach you how to beat it. I know its possible I jsut doubt many people actually know how to do it.
jcp2
Community Veteran
Endless debate. None of you know a god damn thing about anyone except yourselves and a few friends. Natural, rocco, is whatever the fed states as natural. I know in powerlifting the USAPL is 3 years. I am sure bodybuilding feds are similar. I am not sure how people always fidn it hard to beleive that thier are guys who are drug free at a high level. Not everyone wants to commit a felony to compete. Some people just have an aversion to drug use and really got into bodybuilding for a somewhat healthy lifestyle. Imagine that. Now i will agree that a pretty damn big percent of "natural" guys have taken shit in the past. But to sit here and speculate who and when is pretty funny.
demongrinder said:
i really don't think all "natural" bb-ers are natural. I think to be called natural you have to be a certain medium-size relative to the pros...so i think that either if you have amazing genetics and become "medium" sized or if you take not that many roids as the pros take but enough to get to medium size....you're called a natural...
So basically..unless you're a beast you're a "natural" these days.just my 2 canadian cents
