are there any legal products to help w/quality sleep?

BossSauce

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i am running 50 mgs ed of Winstrol (winny) and 100 mgs ed of prop. i don't start my clen again for another week and a half. i crashed hard after this last time of coming off clen and felt extremely exhausted. this has not gone away though. i wake up in the morning and feel like i never slept a wink. i'm not skipping any meals so i'm not running on an empty tank. i do train pretty intensly in the gym, but i don't think that would make me feel like this. i rarely get more than 6 hours of sleep a night, and i toss and turn all goddamn night and wake up a million times, sometimes sweating. i do have a baby boy, but he doesn't really wake up during the middle of the night. if he does, he usually falls right back to sleep. can anyone help me? i've got some melatonin, but i believe i saw it posted somewhere not to take it while on gear, but i can't remember the reason why.
 
so there's no reason you can't take melatonin while on gear? i thought someone posted the opposite. what dosage do you reccomend?
 
LAWNSAVER said:
Melatonin, Kava Kava, Valerian Root, 5-htp are all good and a combo of a few are better.

very true, but your best bet for something that will flat put your ass to sleep is go to your doctor and tell him exactly what you just said a draw back is some sleep medication have a hang over affect, coffee seems to do the trick or ask for Ambiem or Sonata they dont have a hang over affect and are quite efficent

sucks not sleepin, amen?
 
BossSauce said:
so there's no reason you can't take melatonin while on gear? i thought someone posted the opposite. what dosage do you reccomend?

i use to take it while i cycled....

comes in Mg right? one pill 1mg take 2 for a week then back off to one and continue using one from there on.
 
i was exhausted yesterday and know that my workout would have been waaaaaay better had i not been tired. do i have to mention the gear to the doc?
 
anything you tell your doc. is private he cant share it with anybody,
if you want to tell him it would probably be a good idea because of medical complications, somebody needs to know your on gear i think..

my doc. doesnt know but my wife does
 
BossSauce said:
what about potential employers that get acces to your medical files?

self employed myself....dont tell him he doesnt need to know, but if something were to happen to you and you got hurt or sick and were in the hospital it would be to your benefit that somebody knows your jacked on roids...IMO
 
so is it normal to feel this tired though? i feel like i havent slept in days. i didnt feel like this before running gear. i feel physically drained.
 
there is a good reason you feel like that, it is because you need good deep deep sleep i say it would take 2-3-4 nights of good deep sleep before you start feeling up to par..imo
 
DO NOT TELL YOUR DOC ANYTHING ABOUT GEAR USE!!! It may be put on your medical record and your insurance company will dump if you need care for anything they can blame on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) use.
 
thats exactly what i have been thinking all along. has this happened to you or anyone you know? i cant risk my insurance getting dropped so ill take your advice. thanks a lot.
 
BIGGIETIM said:
there is a good reason you feel like that, it is because you need good deep deep sleep i say it would take 2-3-4 nights of good deep sleep before you start feeling up to par..imo
having a baby definitely doesnt help your deep deep sleep! do you think putting up so much more weight and upping my intensity drains you too?
 
BossSauce said:
having a baby definitely doesnt help your deep deep sleep! do you think putting up so much more weight and upping my intensity drains you too?

sure bud there are numerous variables that are most likely contributing to you lack of sleep, if you have a good doctor that you can trust he wouldnt put "he's using gear" in your file, duh
 
P SEVEN from the AF Store. Get the Orange. It made with Neurosteroids that will offset the test. Melatonin is good too.
 
Kava kava hits the liver, not sure about melatonin (not that I'm aware) but I run 3mg of that.
 
HEY BOSS,

YOU HAVE DESCRIBED THE EXACT SYMPTOMS I HAVE BEEN HAVING FOR THE LAST SIX WEEKS OF MY CYCLE. I FINALLY GOT A FRIEND WHO HAS A DOC FRIEND TO GET ME SOME " AMBIEN " 10mg SLEEPING PILLS AND THEY HAVE MADE A BIG IMPROVMENT ON MY SLEEP.
 
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