aspiring roid user looking for advise

AceFace

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hi looking to try a cycle of test e for my first ever cycle. i want to keep it simple and not over do it too much so looking of advise please mainly on my pct cuz ive seen so many and not sure if i really need all the other stuff. also ive take a pretty long break from lifting (more that a year) and currently have been lifting for about 4 months now. so should i hold off and just lift longer before i cycle.

test-e 500mg x 12 weeks
pct Nolvadex 40mg weeks 15-16
20mg weeks 17-18



my stats:
31yrs old
240lbs
6.5"
 
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Wait until you've reached your previous level of fitness. Your muscles return to their previous size faster than it took to get them there to begin with. This is due to a semi-permanent increase in the number of myonuclei, which are responsible for protein synthesis. Wait until you've hit a plateau to use gear.
 
Your not a 20yr old looking for an immediate solution, i actually applaud you for waiting so long before wanting to try anabolics. Your test dose is fine, and pct should be started 4 weeks after your last shot, so week 16 instead of 15. And your doses of tamoxifen as well the change in dose after 2 weeks is correct.
Youre all set man, just have your diet and training in order and you should do quite well. All the yrs of people thinking the more the better is finally starting to slip away, and the basics are coming back into play. A starter cycle should just be test, not test, deca and dbols, with people using AIs and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) when its just not necessary.
Good luck with it, Im sure you will do fine
 
You should be aspiring to get to the point where steroids are a reasonable, prudent option.
Maybe your aspiration should be to learn how to diet train and rest 100% optimally and maximize those efforts...then maybe steroids.
 
Glimmaman in no way is he "set". First off, and it kind of scares me that you didn't notice it, you haven't mentioned any form of Aromatase inhibitor (AI). you should look up arimidex or aromatase, and the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should be taken from the beginning of your cycle up until the day before your pct.

As for the nolva, some consider it best to use a nolva/clomid combo, starting about 2.5 to 3 weeks after your last pin
for nolva, what you mentioned 40/40/20/20 is fine but I would also put in clomid at 50/50/50/50, pct is the most important part of your cycle and will determine how much ofyour gains you will actually keep.
Some people would also include hcg, but Im not using it for my cycle so you will need to research for info on that.

But yes as mentioned before you want to try to get back where you were naturally, through consistent training and a sold diet before you consider aas, best of luck
 
Everything Newf said. PCT should be Nolva AND clomid, for 4 weeks, starting 2-3 weeks after last test pin. Use Adex at 1/2mg E3D or EOD as needed. I do recommend Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) because it helps you recover faster once you start post cycle therapy (pct). Use 250iu 2X per week. I pin same day as test. You want your last pin to be 3-4 days before PCT starts. If you have enough, start at week 2, otherwise count backwards to find your start date. The timing of the last pin is more important than the first.

I disagree with Glimma about Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) not being necessary. It's true, back in the day, guys didn't have them, and they still had good results and all, but I feel these are significant advances that should be taken advantage of. To me, it's like saying pioneers didn't have toilet paper, so you don't really need it.

As for when to start, think of it this way, as Clamp said, you will get back to, or at least close to, where you were in less time that it took to get there in the first place, it's getting beyond that point that's a bitch. It takes weeks for test levels too peak in your system, so an a 12 week cycle, you probably only have about 8 great weeks. Do you want to spend them just getting back, or save them to push forward from where you were? Remember, you will need to take at least 5-6 month off before starting another cycle, so keep that in mind when planning when to start this one. Honestly, if it were me, I would start once I was almost back to my old weights, like maybe 20lbs or what ever. That way I can still be pushing hard through the first 4 weeks of pinning while I'm waiting for the test to really kick in. Also, if it were me, I might push my cycle out to 14-16 weeks to really get the most out of it. Just remember, your muscles will come back and grow a lot faster when on cycle, so be very carful of your joints and tendons etc. Push hard, but not too hard.
 
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thanks for the tips and i agree and will hold off till i hit the wall again.

to answer some question my bf% is roughly 20%
and my intent was only to use once a year during beach time.
also ive just been reading mixed things and people just useing the nolva throught their cycle and since im not pushing like 1gm a week didnt know if this was a necessity. so ill get my hands on adex for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if i decide to go through with it.
i worked out for nearly 6 years straight im just extremely pissed off how much i lost during my downtime from the gym due to injury/work and suppose im looking for that edge to get back.
 
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