Austinite's NEW gyno reversal procedure

p.s. Is he ever coming back? I read through old posts a long time ago but a lot of them were deleted or missing.. I think you said he was doing a research paper??

You're 100% right in general about people thinking more is better, just read through some 2nd cycle threads on here where people are running over a gram of gear a week and 180lbs! I believe mos people are lackin in the calcium department though and most multis that I has seen personally don't have all that much calcium but again, you're right it's something to look into.

He has popped in occasionally but not in a few weeks. He's writing a book due out soon and conductin a clinical trial he's hoping will be published in a scientific journal.
 
At what point would you say to just go with the surgery. Being on serm therapy for say a year?

If you've noticed no changes in size after a year, yes it may be time for surgery. But SERM treatment can take months to work fully so keep a close eye on it. You should notice some changes within the first several months while complete reversal could take 9+months depending on the severity of the case.
 
Austinite is alive and well at steriod dot com. His accidently deleted threads are there also

I just realised I had read some of his threads before but never read the name of the guy posting them haha thanks for that!
Don't generally like sites that force you to sign up though

*my bad, it doesn't let you see all his threads but you can browse the forum fine
 
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You're 100% right in general about people thinking more is better, just read through some 2nd cycle threads on here where people are running over a gram of gear a week and 180lbs! I believe mos people are lackin in the calcium department though and most multis that I has seen personally don't have all that much calcium but again, you're right it's something to look into.

He has popped in occasionally but not in a few weeks. He's writing a book due out soon and conductin a clinical trial he's hoping will be published in a scientific journal.

Wish him all the best with the research, I got sick and tired of my paper when I was finally done with it never wanted to see it again haha
 
Think there would be any benefit to cycling nolva.
Say
40mg 7 days
20mg 21days
30mg 7 days
Back to 20mg
 
Not really. 20mg is an effective dose and many of the studies I've seen using nolva for gyno reversal used 20mg. Maybe try raloxifene instead, Austinite's research showed it a ore effective treatment than nolva.
 
If someone is gyno prone and running a cycle should they be taking something like Letero with their cycle as well as raloxifene to reverse pre-existing gyno?
 
If someone is gyno prone and running a cycle should they be taking something like Letero with their cycle as well as raloxifene to reverse pre-existing gyno?

If letro is your primary Aromatase inhibitor (AI), then yes, you can.. You can take nolvadex or raloxifene on cycle. But you should always test your e2 mid-cycle.
 
All the reading I have been doing on the boards people are saying that Nolva won't do anything for gyno reversal. It's only good for stopping the progression of gyno. That's why I picked up Letero and I have been running it for about 10 days now. I can still feel a mess sort of above my nipple and my nipple has a puffy appearance. The problem with the letero is it's killing my joints.

recently I read that raloxifene is better than letero for reversing gyno so I order some up from Lion. I'm not on any AAS right now, but I want to get on a low dose of Test. Even on 200mg Test my gyno flared up so I'd like to be able to keep it under control and get rid of this pre-existing stuff I already have
 
All the reading I have been doing on the boards people are saying that Nolva won't do anything for gyno reversal. It's only good for stopping the progression of gyno. That's why I picked up Letero and I have been running it for about 10 days now. I can still feel a mess sort of above my nipple and my nipple has a puffy appearance. The problem with the letero is it's killing my joints.

recently I read that raloxifene is better than letero for reversing gyno so I order some up from Lion. I'm not on any AAS right now, but I want to get on a low dose of Test. Even on 200mg Test my gyno flared up so I'd like to be able to keep it under control and get rid of this pre-existing stuff I already have

The reading you've experienced are merely opinions.

Gynecomastia is the enlargement of male breasts by increase in breast tissue development. Not to be confused with fat accumulation around the nipple. This is actual breast tissue. In cases of steroid users, this is due to developing female characteristics from excess estrogen in the body. This can also occur in infants and adolescents due to hormonal imbalances.

There are several types of gynecomastia:

1. Gynecomastia: Enlargement of adult male breast tissue.
2. Pubertal Gynecomastia: Same as above, but develops during puberty.
3. Pseudogynecomastia: This is fatty tissue, not breast tissue.

It's entirely important to identify what you have. There's no reason to attempt treating pseudogynecomastia with SERMs, it will do nothing and could possibly do harm. You would just need to lose weight, period. Nothing else to it. The leaner you become, the more it will dissipate.

With regards to puffy nipples, that may be a sign of beginning stages of gynecomastia development, it most certainly is not a diagnosis. Further testing would be needed to confirm this. However, in most cases, puffy nipples are merely due to a hormonal imbalance (even if estrogen is in range) and in most cases, goes away with time. It could be water retention, fat increase or simply a reaction to the drugs you're taking. Many OTC and prescription drugs may cause this, such as some antidepressants.

Furthermore; it could be due to your tissue surrounding the nipple lacking fat. Yes, low fat can cause a puffy nipple, too. It causes the gland to protrude more, giving the effect of a puffy nipple. So you see, there are plenty of reasons why your nipples could get puffy. Surely there's more than the mentioned, so don't panic just yet. I get puffy nipples every single time I cycle and it goes away, every time.

Sensitive nipples are another concern. This would be an endless topic, frankly, I'm not going to delve into every cause of sensitive nipples because it would be a never ending post. The fact is, we tend to panic when we have sensitive nipples on cycle because we are super extra concerned about gynecomastia development, so we are looking for any and every possible sign. You probably had sensitive nipples off cycle at one point, but didn't give it much thought because you're not on cycle and the chances of it being gynecomastia are slim to none.

Sensitive nipples can be caused by running, from different types of shirt materials used that you're sensitive to as well. Could be a cyst that has developed from an infection. Heck, even fluctuation in body temperature could cause nipples to become slightly sensitive. Now, the panel that most people fail to get is a Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (CMP), which would indicate any concerns that deserve investigating the liver. Liver diseases such as cirrhosis can cause breast tenderness and sensitivity as well. Again, this could be a sign, not a diagnosis so further testing is required. Liver concerns are not uncommon with steroid users. Some folks don't think that injectables are toxic, while they're less toxic, your sensitivity level would not match mine. So 2 people could yield different results from the same injectables.

Leaking nipples is another one as well, if you're lactating then your prolactin levels are high. This is generally observed in the presence of progestins such as nandrolone and trenbolone . High prolactin levels will lead to lactating males. Do not squeeze your nipples to reproduce the issue, ever. You're making things worse. There is also no such thing as prolactin-gynecomastia. So while you're lactating, it does not mean your breast tissue has developed and growing. It merely means that you're lactating. That's your condition: Male Lactation. Not gynecomastia. Similar to folks who suffer Hyperprolactinaemia.

Now, it's important to note that you'll need to have both your progesterone and prolactin tested to see where you're at. High progesterone can certainly aggravate the issue and result in gynecomastia. This is generally in the presence of excess estrogen; and why estrogen control is first line defense.

So there you have it. There's a million and one reasons why your nipples may be puffy and sensitive. Sure, it's a good chance that the cause is your steroid use , but the chances of those signs being diagnosed as gynecomastia is slim when compared to developing an actual lump. Lump = gynecomastia.

Enlargement of breast tissue is very unnatural in men and you'll likely develop a lump, or a hardened spot behind or immediately around your nipple area. This hard spot tends to get bigger if it remains untreated. This is the biggest sign you need to be looking for. You can feel a lump with the slightest touch. There is never a need to "squeeze" your nipples. It could be a bit off to the side, but usually very close too the nipple. You can move your flat palm across your your pecs and feel it easily.

As for Letrozole, here is a link that might be of benefit to you...

Best of luck to you.
 
Yah, I have a mass that gets quite painful when on AAS. It's from not having proper SERMS on hand back in the day and now it flares up any time I run Test even low dose stuff.

I have some raloxifene on the way and I also have some Nolva powder that I can disolve and take in liquid form.

In terms of Letero on cycle, what would you suggest to be the right dose to take on cycle?
 
Yah, I have a mass that gets quite painful when on AAS. It's from not having proper SERMS on hand back in the day and now it flares up any time I run Test even low dose stuff.

I have some raloxifene on the way and I also have some Nolva powder that I can disolve and take in liquid form.

In terms of Letero on cycle, what would you suggest to be the right dose to take on cycle?

I do not recommend Letrozole for cycling, or anything else for that matter. I know member "Juced_Porkchop" is a fan and his dosing recommendation is in his sticky thread (I believe). But JP is a very experienced user and knows when not to go overboard, as Letrozole can be quite harsh. He may be better to guide you with it. I recommend aromasin or arimidex.
 
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