Bad Situation with a guy I know

[EatClenTrenHarder]

So I'm down at the gym the other day, getting a good lift in, and a guy walks in that I used to know. Never really friends, just acquaintances, and we start talking. He goes "I got some Dbol bro." Apparently he's been telling everybody that he's on Dbol and it's almost like he's bragging about it. I'm not into talking about AAS publicly, but if a guy comes up to me and asks me for advice, I'll share knowledge. So I said "are you running Test and some ancillaries and a have a PCT planned?" He goes "nah bro just got some of that milk thistle and baby aspirin". I'm in disbelief. I feel the obligation to set people straight that don't know how much they could hurt themselves, not saying I know everything, but just trying to put them in the right direction. I said "man you gotta quit that, get a PCT and do your research next time" He says "I'm not quitting, I've gained 20 lbs on my bench and I've only been taking 2 pills a day for 8 weeks" at which point I said "you're gonna hurt yourself and regret it."

My question is, what else can I possibly do to intervene? This guy isn't my friend but I'd hate to see him fuck up his body. Any advice on how to handle this situation would be appreciated.

 

[DreDay187]

Sometimes you have to accept the fact that not everyone wants help or takes it. Do what yo can to convince him but don't obsess over it. Send him some links, studies, stickies etc and that should be enough. If he doesn't take it further its on him. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink kind of deal

 

[CptFKNplanet]

Sometimes you have to accept the fact that not everyone wants help or takes it. Do what yo can to convince him but don't obsess over it. Send him some links, studies, stickies etc and that should be enough. If he doesn't take it further its on him. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink kind of deal

Literally took the words out of my mouth.
It's like trying to help people with anything. All you can do is share your knowledge. It's up to them to decide what they do with it.

 

[EatClenTrenHarder]

I appreciate the replies guys. Guess it's one of those things I'm gonna have to let go, I feel obligated to help this guy out but in the end, it's his health, not mine.

 

[DreDay187]

I appreciate the replies guys. Guess it's one of those things I'm gonna have to let go, I feel obligated to help this guy out but in the end, it's his health, not mine.

You cannot force him to do something which he doesn't want to do. Accept it, move on, and learn from it. I've obsessed in the past over helping friends in similar situations and on top of not helping the situation it only strained the friendship.

 

[taefighter72]

Most people's pride get the way. As humans we are prideful. So just let him know if he needs help or questions to come speak with ya

 

[ajntorinj]

You are not selling your point of view at all. He should do PCT because he'll keep more of his gains and will not lose his libido, not because he'll regret it later. He should do test and dbol instead of an oral-only cycle because he will gain more and will feel 10 times better, not because extended oral-only cycles are damaging to the liver and overall health. By changing your approach you'll help him more.

 

[bushleaguechew]

I've got a buddy like this too. He's been on dbol and/or Winstrol (winny) for the better part of 2 years. Doing test tren dbol and deca now.

They just don't want to listen.

 

[imdennis]

trick is , if you're not asked for advice dont give it.. if it doesn't affect your life dont involve urself in it, aint rocket science bro

 

[halfwit]

I can't believe I agree with Dennis AGAIN. DEFINITELY must be the zombie apocalypse incoming!

 

[imdennis]

I can't believe I agree with Dennis AGAIN. DEFINITELY must be the zombie apocalypse incoming!

ive been answering questions legit due to my warning... gotta get them mods off my back

 

[halfwit]

ive been answering questions legit due to my warning... gotta get them mods off my back

It's all good man, I like the new Dennis. You can still be a smart ass, but give out helpful advice at the same time!

 

[Spunkey71]

I have known a few people that always bragged about doing cycles, the truth is they never did, just wanted people to think they were bad asses and were.

 

[imdennis]

I have known a few people that always bragged about doing cycles, the truth is they never did, just wanted people to think they were bad asses and were.

i brag about being natural, but rally im juicing cruising = natty blasting = natty im always natty

 

[detroitdrugzzz93]

So I'm down at the gym the other day, getting a good lift in, and a guy walks in that I used to know. Never really friends, just acquaintances, and we start talking. He goes "I got some Dbol bro." Apparently he's been telling everybody that he's on Dbol and it's almost like he's bragging about it. I'm not into talking about AAS publicly, but if a guy comes up to me and asks me for advice, I'll share knowledge. So I said "are you running Test and some ancillaries and a have a PCT planned?" He goes "nah bro just got some of that milk thistle and baby aspirin". I'm in disbelief. I feel the obligation to set people straight that don't know how much they could hurt themselves, not saying I know everything, but just trying to put them in the right direction. I said "man you gotta quit that, get a PCT and do your research next time" He says "I'm not quitting, I've gained 20 lbs on my bench and I've only been taking 2 pills a day for 8 weeks" at which point I said "you're gonna hurt yourself and regret it."

My question is, what else can I possibly do to intervene? This guy isn't my friend but I'd hate to see him fuck up his body. Any advice on how to handle this situation would be appreciated.

would you be willing to let it rest on your conscience that you let some guy fuck his body up when you could have told him the error of his ways? if it weren't for people on these forums I would have done something similar im sure. I would tell him what he's doing is going to hurt him and why. if he does not listen be willing to accept that it is his decision and let it go. you can point him in the right direction, but at the end of the day, it is his life and you can't make that decision for him.

 

[Mad- scientist]

To be honest a d-bol cycle is not the end of the world. All of the pro hormones people took with out a testosterone base was practically the same thing. Its not good to do it but its still not the end of the world. Guys did it all the time in the old school days. I don't advise it though.

 

[CGI]

I've seen a few people in similar situations. They tell me how they're going to get big and all these results on a certain amount of gear or some advertised supplement and say ridiculous things about how they are going to add 30lbs of lean dry muscle in a month. I see them 2-3 years later and they still look the same and I'm still bigger than them as a natty. People don't want to listen and they still won't listen even after you show them how they have hurt themselves. But w/e, all you can do is help and show them the right info to get em on track. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make em drink it.

 

[EatClenTrenHarder]

You are not selling your point of view at all. He should do PCT because he'll keep more of his gains and will not lose his libido, not because he'll regret it later. He should do test and dbol instead of an oral-only cycle because he will gain more and will feel 10 times better, not because extended oral-only cycles are damaging to the liver and overall health. By changing your approach you'll help him more.

I would sell your point of view, ajntorinj, but I'm not a personal trainer worried about a guy keeping his gains and feeling better on cycle. I'm just simply concerned about the guy's health. I really don't care if he does or doesn't keep his gains, I'm just concerned from a health standpoint. I don't see anything wrong with telling a guy he's going to regret something later. My OP is focused on a guy's health, not what he should do to maintain gains and not lose his libido. Like I said in the OP, "I'm not into talking about AAS publicly, but if a guy comes up to me and asks me for advice, I'll share knowledge" as in if a guy wants me to go in depth for advice, I will. This guy didn't approach me for advice, basically just to brag, even though he doesn't know what he's doing. This is why I was concerned and was wondering if there's something else I could say, to warn him of the potential health hazards.

 

[DreDay187]

I would sell your point of view, ajntorinj, but I'm not a personal trainer worried about a guy keeping his gains and feeling better on cycle. I'm just simply concerned about the guy's health. I really don't care if he does or doesn't keep his gains, I'm just concerned from a health standpoint. I don't see anything wrong with telling a guy he's going to regret something later. My OP is focused on a guy's health, not what he should do to maintain gains and not lose his libido. Like I said in the OP, "I'm not into talking about AAS publicly, but if a guy comes up to me and asks me for advice, I'll share knowledge" as in if a guy wants me to go in depth for advice, I will. This guy didn't approach me for advice, basically just to brag, even though he doesn't know what he's doing. This is why I was concerned and was wondering if there's something else I could say, to warn him of the potential health hazards.

I think what ajntorinj is trying to say is whether your concerned about his gains or not it MAY be what makes him open his eyes. Maybe he doesn't care much about health but does about gains. A good salesman can sell you something you don't need, not bc its what's best for you, but bc he knows how to capture your interest. This friend may need to hear something other than health issues since it seems like those aren't his priority.

 

[ajntorinj]

^Thanks, Dre. Nagging the guy might make you feel better ClenTren, but it will not translate into a healthier outcome for your friend.