Been Having Deca Dick issues for too long

[BSF5025]

Hey guys,

I just registered on here. I'm 24 years old. Long story short, I've had deca dick issues for almost 8 months now. This shits getting out of hand.

In August of 2016 i started running a sustanon 325 and deca 300 cycle (600mg sust a week and 500mg deca a week). My results were iffy and I was not gaining any weight. I eventually thought it was diluted or something. 6 weeks in, my erection started dying on me in the middle of sex and my sex drive was dropping quick. My balls shrank and everything so I knew the deca was working. I eventually got frustrated with the cycle and aborted the cycle after 11 weeks with just 2lbs weight gain. I was furious. I actually did not even have a pct on hand at the time yet and just winged it without one because I was stupid and thought my cycle was a fluke. One month later I started feeling the come down. Everything got worse. My sex drive was non existent and my energy was at an all time low. I freaked out and told myself I won't take anything for however long it takes until my body levels back out. Months go by and I still feel terrible. Nothing is improving.

I went to a doc 4.5 months after the cycle was over and my total test was 406ng/dL which is on the lower end of normal range (but i know damn well this is way too low for my body). My free test was at 79pg/mL which is also at the lower end of normal range but is also way too low for my body. I used to be an uncontrollable horn ball when I was in high school and college, and now his bs happens. I figured after months go by, my body would recover, but apparently not.

6 months later (5 weeks ago), I decided to get back on cycle to see if my test was the issue. Im currently running 400mg Test E a week and 400mg Equipoise a week and I started with a 50mg Turanabol kickstart the first 4 weeks. My pumps and vascularity are definitely picking up, but I am still lagging in libido and still sometimes die out in the middle of sex. So I'm starting to realize that my testosterone might not even be the issue. I've tried caber for a few weeks but I didn't notice much of a difference. I've played with my arimidex dose anywhere from 0-1.5mg/week to see if i had too high r too low of estrogen and I still can't figure it out. The first couple weeks of my cycle I started feeling better again and had great sex with the girlfriend, but then it dropped back down. I just don't understand it. All my friends who run gear only have sex issues for maybe a week or two at a time when off cycle and thats it. I'm having so many issues and I dont want it to ruin my relationship with a great girl. I know not to ever run a cycle again unless I have everything I need plus more. I'm stocked for this cycle and I'm hoping that this pct goes smoothly.

I know testosterone isn't the only hormone related to libido. I'm guessing all this has something to do with my prolactin or estrogen considering I'm having issues on and off cycle. Any feedback is much appreciated.

 

[Milton]

Welcome to the boards! When did you start using Deca and other AAS how much etc? With this and your personal stats you will get more accurate responses and help

 

[Teutonic]

Welcome


Waaaay to many potential variables w o a blood test...seriously. It ll get better once we ll see...

 

[oldmusclemike]

WE need to see BW. Also did you ever run an AI and keep your Estradiol in check with high or low, back when the problems started happening ? Did you ever check out your prolactin when you got those lab results on you test levels.?

Better if you gave all your stats and history of cycles along with the complete cycle layout and procedures. Then with current BW some of the vets might be able to see more of the possible problems. Good Luck

Oh by chance have you ever used Cialis for temporary relief / help.

 

[BSF5025]

This sust Deca cycle was my second cycle. My first cycle was just a 12 week test E only cycle @500mg/week (I played with a little winny for a couple weeks at the end too). I then ran 5,000iu hcg the 10 days after my last shot, then 4 weeks of pct 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva. Everything went fine. No sex issues. I got back on 11 weeks later after the cycle was over which is this sust Deca cycle I'm talking about.

I'm 5'7
180lbs
10% BF

 

[BSF5025]

I was using nolva during cycle (10mg tabs) but never noticed any estrogen sides and even eliminated it from the cycle to see if anything changed and nothing changed. At that point I was pissed because I felt like my cycle was bullshit.
But as far as my blood work, the doc didn't test my estrogen or prolactin which was unfortunate. Just my total test (406) and free test (79).
It's just odd how I've played with caber and my arimidex for this current cycle I'm on and I can't figure out what the issue is.

 

[halfwit]

You can't fix a problem by throwing more at it. You've made a few mistakes here, but it's something that can be fixed.

First: Read this link
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

There's information on how to order your own blood test and which to pick. That will help enormously in determining what the problem is, and which way to continue.

I strongly suspect that you weren't using an AI until this last time, and likely bouncing between high and low estradiol as you would adjust your dose. Hormones don't work well this way, and the first thing to suffer is your Johnson.

There's no such thing as deca dick by the way. It's prolactin dick, and the number one way to get it is by not taking care of estradiol - which is done via use of an AI. Your buddies are either lucky, or aren't sharing with you their true experiences. No guy wants to tell his buds that he's got pecker problems, unless it's anonymous, like here.

Get the results, and post them up. We'll get you on the right track.

My .02c

 

[Teutonic]

To many throw more monkey s in their self made cluster fuck and I mean that with honesty---I just dodged a serious train wreck playing with fire. I d go trt dose and re boot...with bloods. This is sex we re talking about--water air food sex shelter then gear--hierarchy of needs sir.

 

[BSF5025]

You can't fix a problem by throwing more at it. You've made a few mistakes here, but it's something that can be fixed.

First: Read this link
steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

There's information on how to order your own blood test and which to pick. That will help enormously in determining what the problem is, and which way to continue.

I strongly suspect that you weren't using an AI until this last time, and likely bouncing between high and low estradiol as you would adjust your dose. Hormones don't work well this way, and the first thing to suffer is your Johnson.

There's no such thing as deca dick by the way. It's prolactin dick, and the number one way to get it is by not taking care of estradiol - which is done via use of an AI. Your buddies are either lucky, or aren't sharing with you their true experiences. No guy wants to tell his buds that he's got pecker problems, unless it's anonymous, like here.

Get the results, and post them up. We'll get you on the right track.

My .02c

This was the most helpful message yet. Thank you. And yes i was using an AI for my first cycle. My first cycle was a Test E only cycle @500mg/week (2 shots) and using adex @ 0.5 - 1mg per week. I started with 1mg 3 weeks in, then dropped it down to half midway through I believe. I played with 2 weeks of winny toward the end of the cycle but I didn't really like the look so I discontinued. I ran hcg @ 5,000iu over a ten day span following my last shot of test, then the 2 week mark from the last shot of test i started my pct 50mg clomid & 20mg nolva for 4 weeks. Never once had sex issues. The cycle went fine.

I have a question regardling the online lab test. I noticed the "Hormone panel for females" blood test does NOT include prolactin. I'm assuming I have to select both the "hormone panel for females" as well as "prolactin" for my blood work then correct? Yikes that'll be pricey but i'll do what I gotta do. Thanks man. Any feedback is appreciated.

 

[BSF5025]

[You can't fix a problem by throwing more at it. You've made a few mistakes here, but it's something that can be fixed.

First: Read this link
'Ology Frequently Asked Questions

There's information on how to order your own blood test and which to pick. That will help enormously in determining what the problem is, and which way to continue.

I strongly suspect that you weren't using an AI until this last time, and likely bouncing between high and low estradiol as you would adjust your dose. Hormones don't work well this way, and the first thing to suffer is your Johnson.

There's no such thing as deca dick by the way. It's prolactin dick, and the number one way to get it is by not taking care of estradiol - which is done via use of an AI. Your buddies are either lucky, or aren't sharing with you their true experiences. No guy wants to tell his buds that he's got pecker problems, unless it's anonymous, like here.

Get the results, and post them up. We'll get you on the right track.

My .02c ]

I don't know if my reply from yesterday actually went through. But anyway, this message was the most help. I was using adex for my first cycle (test only) and never had any sex issues. Adding the deca to my next cycle put me all down hill, but I was using nolva during cycle instead of adex which was dumb now that I think of it.

I noticed the "hormone panel for females" it does not contain Prolactin. So I would have to select prolactin separately as well correct? Thanks man.

 

[halfwit]

I don't know if my reply from yesterday actually went through. But anyway, this message was the most help. I was using adex for my first cycle (test only) and never had any sex issues. Adding the deca to my next cycle put me all down hill, but I was using nolva during cycle instead of adex which was dumb now that I think of it.

I noticed the "hormone panel for females" it does not contain Prolactin. So I would have to select prolactin separately as well correct? Thanks man.

Yes, you would need to add it to your cart to have them test for it.

 

[oldmusclemike]

.............. .QUOTE, TooTuff ....This is sex we re talking about--water air food sex shelter then gear--hierarchy of needs sir.

Yep Yep

 

[oldmusclemike]

....Quote BSF: I was using adex for my first cycle (test only) and never had any sex issues. Adding the deca to my next cycle put me all down hill, but I was using nolva during cycle instead of adex

See ^^^, I think this is a Simple Simon Problem and will come out in the BW as we all agree. Just look at what Op said above.

AS some know, I'm on 600 test and 600 Deca week. I've tweaked my Adex three times and EVERYTHING is great. Appetite energy and my dick hurts from the too hard too frequent boners. I'm being redundant on posts now , but get it. Estradiol under control while on Deca.

This will get straightened out very soon. Good luck and not to worry IMOP.

 

[Teutonic]

....and a lot of this is in ur head. I ve had e d in the past..when I was much much younger and uninformed as in 1986 ish --- pct, auxill drugs, pct....were not known to ur average abuser like me.

And being 25 and a lean 218 and can t get it up can be devastating when a 21 college hard-body looks at you..remember Viagra was not even thought of ...Bloods ? I was a poor ass college boy in a 600 dollar Honda Civic.

U can t think of ur organ but hers.

Like the Oracle HW says "You will be right as rain Neo ".

 

[BSF5025]

Hey Guys. Sorry it took like a month for me to update this thread. But anyway, I got the Recommended Mid Cycle BW done from labsmd.com, 8 weeks into my cycle, plus prolactin added. Here are the results. I am currently 10 weeks in now. Again, my cycle is :

Week 1-4: 400mg test E, 400mg EQ, 50mg Turinabol/day (started taking 1.0mg adex per week 3 weeks in)
Week 5-10: 550mg Test E, 550mg EQ, dropped the tbol, but taking 0.5mg adex per week, 1.0mg caber per week, 250iu hcg 3x a week.
---- I dropped the caber after week 9, I'll explain why.

Calories are around 2500, training 5-6 days a week, cardio maybe once or twice. I'm trying to get leaner for summer.

But here's the thing I didn't mention when I first started this thread 5 weeks in... I tested positive with a real bad case of mono a week before I started this thread (which was 4 weeks in, hence why i dropped the Tbol 4 weeks in instead of my planned 6). I've had mono before 3 yrs ago and it only lasted like 4 days so I didn't think it would be a big issue. The mono shut me down so hard and my body was dead flat for 2 weeks. I was on bed rest. Could barely eat or drink a damn thing. Doc put me on a couple rounds of prednisone, Ibuprofen, I rushed to the ER because the pus pockets in my throat ruptured and I was bleeding from the throat and had to get hooked up to an IV for fluids and decadron.... everything was a mess. I was still shooting up twice a week feeling like a zombie lol I didn't wanna just abort the cycle I didn't know how long this was going to last. It has been 5+ weeks now since my symptoms started and I'm feeling better now but still not 100%. My throat still bothers me once in a while. I still feel flat very often. I havent gained a damn thing from this cycle yet other than some vascularity and maybe 2-3x a week in the gym with a decent pump. Other than that, you would never guess I'm running something by looking at me. Its depressing. Im shutting my body down for pretty much no reason.

If you look at my BW, my test levels are 5,500+... so that's not the issue. My estrogen is in normal range too so I don't think thats the issue. My LH and FSH are LOW, but I'm on cycle so obviously. And for prolactin... my prolactin is actually LOW. I've been taking 1mg caber a week for a month straight up until I saw these numbers last week and cut it out. But anyway, I realized this BW test does not include a Free Testosterone reading... wtf isn't that one of the most important readings?! Your total test does not matter if your free test is fucked. Should I go back to get a free test reading too?

My sex drive has picked up but still not 100%. I haven't had an issue getting an erection lately. Although, I'm not too excited to have sex and my orgasms don't even feel all that great. My loads are smaller and thicker too lol. I'm experiencing so many issues and its embarrassing, let alone depressing.

I am currently running 550mg each test and EQ, with no orals. Still 0.5mg adex a week because my estrogen seems fine. I keep wanting to blame the mono for my terrible results so far, but I'm getting impatient and nervous that something else might be wrong that I still haven't figured out.

Take a look at my numbers and tell me what you guys think. Thanks for taking the time to help me out.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

That is officially the highest TT number I have EVER seen on lab work. You should take note because I have seen THOUSANDS of labs.

Time to fire up the HCG for 2-6 months. Your shut down and your body never had the chance to fully recover. The more it does that the further and further you slip into suppression, the deeper the hole, the bigger the shovel your gonna need to get out.

I am not a physician please consult with yours before changing or implementing any therapeutic program.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

BRO...... Your CBC didn't even register, please donate blood or get a PHLEB IMMEDIATELY.

These are some serious labs bro, your in over your head.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Take your name off that lab work or take it down.

 

[halfwit]

DET: He's on a cycle buddy, those are good numbers for his dose, but there are much higher floating around here.

I do agree with editing out personal information though!

OP: You just recovered from a nasty virus that doesn't exactly go away. Add to that you're training hard AND on a caloric deficit. My advice?

Take a deload week. Drop the weight to 50% your normal working weight, cut out any cardio, and rest. You're going to feel like you're just spinning your wheels, but I promise that you'll feel MUCH better once all is said and done.

I'm in fact taking my own advice this week as I had been starting to feel run down, and know that it's time. Kills me lifting so light, but the body needs it.

That, and a little cialis can go a long way.

My .02c

 

[oldmusclemike]

Shit, that bastard halfwit told you correctly. I can attest that Cialis will go a longer way if you aint careful, ha , lol. I just went into a slump and thought that my Estradiol was G2G but was evidently wrong so I upped my Adex and in a very short time things seem to be getting a bit better, not up to par but better.

Oh DET as said his TT is not off , it is quite appropriate for the cycle. Mine get just like that.