Been Having Deca Dick issues for too long

[halfwit]

Have you ever been able to confirm that sexual dysfunction related to increased prolactin on a blood test?

Absolutely. Both first hand, and when dealing with others.

Be aware though; there's a difference between prolactin issues and estradiol issues.

Estradiol: lack of desire, inability to achieve an erection, often a complete lack of morning wood.

Prolactin: Able to achieve an erection - kind of, often losing it mid-coitus. Inability to achieve orgasm, or very prolonged ejaculation.

They're both pretty unnerving, but prolactin issues are worse imo as they not only give you hope of having sex, only to fall flat (or limp in this case), but they take a little longer to fix.

 

[4GKenZy]

I am donating blood this week. And the CBC did not even get a reading so why would I pay to get more blood work if its just not going to get me a reading again?... And I checked my blood pressure today at work its perfectly normal. I do cardio. My diet is very healthy. I'm dropping the EQ now and just running the test.

Right. Good then. Sorry, hematocrit can spike really fast on AAS and, if it does, you're in a very dangerous situation.

But if your blood pressure is normal then I wouldn't stress about it.

When you donate this week, give a double red just to be safe. I wish you and your dick the best of luck.

 

[BSF5025]

Lol thanks. And I've been able to achieve erections no problem lately. My sex drive in general is just lacking a bit. And my loads have less to them and are thick. I would think the hcg would keep that from happening, but I guess it's not too big of a deal.

 

[JimiThing]

Lol thanks. And I've been able to achieve erections no problem lately. My sex drive in general is just lacking a bit. And my loads have less to them and are thick. I would think the hcg would keep that from happening, but I guess it's not too big of a deal.

HCG helps with that but remember it is a LH mimetic, not a FSH mimetic and FSH is responsible for spermatogenesis. You are, in all likelihood not producing the amount of sperm you normally would thus the impact on ejaculate volume.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Absolutely. Both first hand, and when dealing with others.

Be aware though; there's a difference between prolactin issues and estradiol issues.

Estradiol: lack of desire, inability to achieve an erection, often a complete lack of morning wood.

Prolactin: Able to achieve an erection - kind of, often losing it mid-coitus. Inability to achieve orgasm, or very prolonged ejaculation.

They're both pretty unnerving, but prolactin issues are worse imo as they not only give you hope of having sex, only to fall flat (or limp in this case), but they take a little longer to fix.

This IMOP is the worst.

 

[BSF5025]

If your interested in timing your recovery I will need the compounds your using again. I will outline the schedule one would take for the best shot at recovery, for hypothetical purposes of course

11 weeks in to my cycle, I'm currently using right now Dragon Pharma Test Cyp 250 (550mg/week) and Affliction EQ 250 (550mg/week). No orals. And taking 0.5mg adex (Armotraz) per week. And hcg (Ovidac) 250iu 3x/week. I am cutting out the EQ, and I was thinking just run test at 500mg this week, then 400 next week, 300 the week after, then 200, then off... Then hcg blast and then pct. Any timing advice is appreciated.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Please note: I am not a physician strongly recommend you consult with one before starting or changing any therapeutic program.

I liked switching to prop before closing my TRT and attempting an HPTA restart. The shorter ester clears much quicker and allows for a much cleaner recovery.

With that being said~

When to ramp up HCG:

Prop - 10 days after cessation

Cyp + E - 21 days after cessation

Undecanoate - 4 weeks + after cessation

Once AAS cessation and you have waited long enough for esters to clear, as your waiting maintenance dosages of HCG are recommended:

Week 1-12

GHRH/GHRP combo 600-900mcg QD broken into two or three shots. Fasted stomach, no carbs for 45 minutes after shot.

Vitamin e cream
5-HTP
Vitamin D
Vitamin C
Arginine


Week 1-6

HCG 1500 IU 3x per week. On end of 4th week spend 70 bucks and get a TT test. The idea here is to see if the testes have been re-sensitized. If you get a 500+ TT reading your ready to move on to phase two which is SERM.

Week 1-6

Anastrozole 0.25mg - 0.5mg per HCG injection

Phase 2

Week 6-12

Clomiphene 50mg QD
Tamox 20mg QD first 10 days 10mg QD for remains 40 ish days

Stop everything retest in a month and you will know if you need to run HCG again or not.

Adding HMG would help but thats a whole nuther topic

Hope this makes sense and helps.

 

[BSF5025]

Please note: I am not a physician strongly recommend you consult with one before starting or changing any therapeutic program.

I liked switching to prop before closing my TRT and attempting an HPTA restart. The shorter ester clears much quicker and allows for a much cleaner recovery.

With that being said~

When to ramp up HCG:

Prop - 10 days after cessation

Cyp + E - 21 days after cessation

Undecanoate - 4 weeks + after cessation

Once AAS cessation and you have waited long enough for esters to clear, as your waiting maintenance dosages of HCG are recommended:

Week 1-12

GHRH/GHRP combo 600-900mcg QD broken into two or three shots. Fasted stomach, no carbs for 45 minutes after shot.

Vitamin e cream
5-HTP
Vitamin D
Vitamin C
Arginine


Week 1-6

HCG 1500 IU 3x per week. On end of 4th week spend 70 bucks and get a TT test. The idea here is to see if the testes have been re-sensitized. If you get a 500+ TT reading your ready to move on to phase two which is SERM.

Week 1-6

Anastrozole 0.25mg - 0.5mg per HCG injection

Phase 2

Week 6-12

Clomiphene 50mg QD
Tamox 20mg QD first 10 days 10mg QD for remains 40 ish days

Stop everything retest in a month and you will know if you need to run HCG again or not.

Adding HMG would help but thats a whole nuther topic

Hope this makes sense and helps.

I dont even have half of the things I need to run this, let alone able to get my hands on it anytime soon. I dont want to wait any longer. The longer I stay on the harder I'm shutting down. I cut the EQ out of my cycle as of the start of this week and just ran test. I am planning on coming off after this week, then blasting 1,000iu hcg ED for 10 days (10,000iu total) starting 3 days after last test shot, and then wait until I feel a crash coming to start my clomid/tamox pct (estimating that will be 2.5 - 3 weeks after last shot of test considering my test levels are currently quite high). Running that pct for 4 weeks, then getting BW a few weeks later after pct done... Side Note: I have a lot of cialis on hand if/when needed lol.

Let me know if this looks like an optimal second resort

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Please note: I am not a physician strongly recommend you consult with one before starting or changing any therapeutic program.


Week 1-6

HCG 1500 IU 3x per week. On end of 4th week spend 70 bucks and get a TT test. The idea here is to see if the testes have been re-sensitized. If you get a 500+ TT reading your ready to move on to phase two which is SERM.

Week 1-6

Anastrozole 0.25mg - 0.5mg per HCG injection

Phase 2

Week 6-12

Clomiphene 50mg QD
Tamox 20mg QD first 10 days 10mg QD for remains 40 ish days

This might do.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I am planning on coming off after this week, then blasting 1,000iu hcg ED for 10 days (10,000iu total) starting 3 days after last test shot, and then wait until I feel a crash coming to start my clomid/tamox pct (estimating that will be 2.5 - 3 weeks after last shot of test considering my test levels are currently quite high). Running that pct for 4 weeks, then getting BW a few weeks later after pct done... Side Note: I have a lot of cialis on hand if/when needed lol.

Let me know if this looks like an optimal second resort

Your wasting it doing HCG like that.

Spread your HCG out, and again wait 3 -4 weeks after your last shot. You should be waiting for the crash then doing HCG.

 

[BSF5025]

Your wasting it doing HCG like that.

Spread your HCG out, and again wait 3 -4 weeks after your last shot. You should be waiting for the crash then doing HCG.

Are you saying I'd be wasting the hcg in a sense that I'm starting it too early? Or that I'm taking too much in a short period of time?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Or that I'm taking too much in a short period of time?

Yes. At most QOD. 3x per week should be plenty.

10,000 IU / 750 IU = 13.3

13.3 / 3 = 4.4 weeks.

Thats much better than 10 days

 

[BSF5025]

Yes. At most QOD. 3x per week should be plenty.

10,000 IU / 750 IU = 13.3

13.3 / 3 = 4.4 weeks.

Thats much better than 10 days

I'm trying to make sure I'm reading your calculations right and protocol correctly.

So I should wait until I start feeling a crash (in 3 weeks or so I'm estimating) before I start my hcg. And run 750iu 3x/week for a total of 10,000iu. Then start my 4 week pct immediately after that?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Yup

Talk to a doc of course

 

[BSF5025]

Yup

Talk to a doc of course

Thanks man. And I'm assuming I should be continuing my adex from this point forward up until the end of the hcg correct? Been taking 0.5mg/week throughout this cycle.

 

[BSF5025]

I understand exactly what DD is, but I don't think that is what he has at all. It is in fact did not report.

Its not common at all for it to happen. There are not many lab testing companies, just many other companies that play the middle man.

Typically if something wasn't tested its not on there, I have seen a ton of "al a carte" assays. As a matter of fact thats what quest is.

No disrespect at all, I am just 99.9% positive his HCT is 60%. The highest I have seen is 56%. 55% is the threshold where you should discontinue immediately.

This could be what this company calls a "partial result". Even then though its usually just not on the lab print out. When quest gets "partial results" when the number comes back its crazy high, like I said because the double check it, thats why its late. But there is always a reason for the values to be on there but not report.

So, his symptoms, the DNR, and the fact than bun coincidently also didn't post, is what is leading me to believe that, pretty sure its an accurate assessment too.

PS 5k is really high, not saying dangerous I am concerned mostly about CBC, but 5k is high. I challenge anyone to find 10 blood tests with this reading. You can search the medical literature its not out there.

My sex drive fell within 6 weeks of the deca cycle last year. And my sex drive has not been the same ever since. So yes deca has played a major role in my sex issues so far. But i don't know why still after 9 months. Deca does stay in your system for a very long time, but my prolactin was low on the bw considering I was taking caber for 3 weeks prior to the bw. And my estradiol was in range in the bw as well so I'm just still a bit confused. Maybe since I've been having sex issues for so long it's just mainly in my head now and I need to get it out. My sure.

But anyway, about my test being in the 5ks, my buddy competes in bodybuilding at the national level (not even a pro yet) and his test is in the 7ks. I don't understand why everyone is freaking out about mine being in the 5ks. I've been on 2ccs of test for 11 weeks why would that lead me to a dangerously high test level lol there are people out there running a gram or two a week, yet I'm the one in danger? Lol confusing if u ask me.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Like I said its not the T levels, its your hematocrit and hemoglobin I am worried about.

 

[BSF5025]

Like I said its not the T levels, its your hematocrit and hemoglobin I am worried about.

Right I agree.

Did u get my response about the adex? Should I be continuing my usual dose of adex (0.5mg/week) up until end of hcg? Thanks

 

[Mountain-Man]

A lot of great advice I hope it works out happened to me once and corrected itself in 7 mths thank god

 

[BSF5025]

A lot of great advice I hope it works out happened to me once and corrected itself in 7 mths thank god

What happened to you? The deca dick for months? Or the blood issues? Or the mono?... Or all 3 lol. As you can see I've been a complete mess for the past 9 months. Trying to recover these next few months and get a fresh start ***129298;***128549;