Begginer cycle newbie advice

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FrenchieFlare

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Okay I admit I'm a total noob at this. I'm 27, 160lbs, and 5'7'' and thinking of starting my first cycle. Bear with me i'm trying to stay within the sites guidelines. I researched good gear products such as gm line and ax line...but here's the problem i never cycled before!!! I have a friend that cycles all the time and he's amazing which he has talked me into it, so i'm pretty set on it...any good first cycle ideas for a begginer? I mean every one had to start somewhere...he recommend sus 250 or test prop just one for first cycle 250mgs twice a week to see gains for a regular guy...any newbie suggestions please keep in my mind I am head strong set on a cycle
 
I can already tell you that you will see many posts forth coming that will say food is the most anabolic thing you need right now.

However, to answer your question, sus as a first cycle is a bad idea. Too many compounds and if you react badly to one you won't know which one to stay away from.

Prop is a bad idea being that you have to inject quite frequently. Pick a compound that you can inject 2x a week and on the same day every week.

I'll let others suggest a cycle to you as I believe you are in a bad situation. You have a steroid mentor who probably isn't the best thinker in the world. Sort of a blind leading the blind paradigm.
 
^^^yup


screw sus...here ya go:

Proper diet
week 1-12 test e 250mg mon/thurs = 6000mg = 3 bottles of test e
week 1-18 aromasin 12.5mg ed (this dose shall be titrated/tapered if needed during cycle)

Blast phase:
Starting the day after your last shot inject 500iu ed for 10 of hcg...4 days later start pct

PCT:
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

optional:
weeks 1-12 Hcg 500iu mon/thurs (not really necessary on test only cycle but is beneficial)
 
how many g's of pro/carb/fat do you eat a day? how often do you train? do you eat fast food ever?


it doesnt sound like your really into bodybuilding, power lifting, etc. u got a buddy whose big and hes talked you into running a cycle??

if you dont cook all your meals and have been lifting for 5 yrs you have no business with a bottle of test


sorry man
 
gymrat827 said:
how many g's of pro/carb/fat do you eat a day? how often do you train? do you eat fast food ever?


it doesnt sound like your really into bodybuilding, power lifting, etc. u got a buddy whose big and hes talked you into running a cycle??

if you dont cook all your meals and have been lifting for 5 yrs you have no business with a bottle of test


sorry man
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I do have to admit that I was quick at giving a first cycle but he does not need to be working out for 5 years to run a test only cycle. Your not gonna hurt yourself with test only with a somewhat conditioned body. I do agree his diet is lacking and I should have got a better history...not sure what got into me there. I will chalk it up to sleep deprivation
 
I'm sorry for the late reply i'm new to the site as well and trying to learn my way around it, but the bad thing is i already paid my money for the test prop so i'm stuck 200 in the hole there...but as far as my eating habits goes, i read you got to eat healthy but also read that you can dirty bulk as long as you getting your protein, but i have been looking for a good inexpensive meal plan
 
FrenchieFlare said:
I'm sorry for the late reply i'm new to the site as well and trying to learn my way around it, but the bad thing is i already paid my money for the test prop so i'm stuck 200 in the hole there...but as far as my eating habits goes, i read you got to eat healthy but also read that you can dirty bulk as long as you getting your protein, but i have been looking for a good inexpensive meal plan
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You should not worry so much about spending money on food as it is more important than the steroids. In this case just run the prop for 8 weeks at 100mg eod. aromasin would be 12.5mg ed to end of post cycle therapy (pct). Pct starts 3-4 days after last inject.
 
Honestly i believe it is the blind leading the blind i stumbled across this site and been doing some reading and was like in wow, because my friend haven't explained to me about post cycle therapy (pct) or Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and all of that, says he doesn't do it at all just shoots low dosages, and says "we'll" be fine...but after reading some posts it's like i don't know but now i got money spent...oh and i read about that test e on here, and it makes me kind of nervous cause this guy said he kept losing his testicles that strikes all kinds of fear in my heart
 
okay like i explained i am a noob i admit that...now a guy told me i don't know if he was trying to freak me out or what but told me that your post cycle therapy (pct) and all that to stop gyno must be shot in your stomach?! if that's the case is there anything oral i can take to prevent all the bloat and gyno symptoms?
 
oh another thing, i do "dirty" bulk if that's what they call eating what you want, but i have gotten into the habit of four baked chicken breast a day for my protein, cold ensure high protein with a scoop of gold standard 100% whey...like i said i'm trying to learn, and look at all knowledge and suggestions people are giving me as a blessing
 
hes talking about hcg..not really necessary.
there is plenty of orals you can take. letro, ananstrozole, exemestane, for on cycle.
clomid and nolva for pct
 
okay so the injecting into my stomach thing was just to spook me i guess...but my friend was like i don't need to run nothing but the sus or the test, and says since we're running at such a low dose it was no need for all that...now i always thought about it myself but i always wanted to run an oral like anadrol or dbol but the life in the liver and the damage it does changed my mind quickly on that...i just want a safe first cycle maybe second if i pursue it without being a walking medicine cabinet and man boobs, my testicles and man boobs are my biggest worry
 
read the stickies on here man. There is tons of info for your first cycle, pct, etc. Dont worry about getting man boobs or balls shrinking or whatever. Testicles shrinking is part of it
 
Admin please don't blast me for this, but if i can make it thru this cycle with success i may use gmeds line, axline, or sci*** line gear (hope i didn't violate nothing) i've read some good reviews on each except for the ax line went in the dumps for awhile but bounced back...mainly if i am to pursue this cause i feel that our connect is pretty high and i'll be saving plenty plus cutting shipping time in half...but i don't want to be huge just nicely shaped esp arms, chest, shoulders, abs hard to obtain but i would like to cut down a puddgy one pack to a slim one pack if not a six lol
 
i just took a pic how do i post it on here to get some more advice on this first cycle if that will help from some of you more experinced people out there
 
you have all the advice you need. Do your test shots every other day. Run an ai(aromitase inhibitor) such as arimidex on cycle. Use clomid at 50mgs everyday for 4 weeks 5-7 days after your last shot of prop.
what the hell else do you wanna know? want me to write up a diet and training plan??
 
if that's all that i need to know, i greatly appreciate it everyone hopefully my very first cycle goes great and i see some impressive gains...thanks
 
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