Best appetite suppresent/diet pill?

[t2theknee]

Well, I think my clenbuterol is just too old because I've up'd the dose to 60mcg and for my size that should have me shaking. So, I think I'm going to throw it out and get something else to help me lose 7-10 lbs for summer.

Any of you have recommendations for the best diet pill? I don't really need energy, just want to control my healthy appetite to get ripped. Of course fat burning is helpful too.

There's so many out there so I was hoping I could get experienced users to give me "heads up" to the best.

Thanks!

 

[Mrs P]

Well, I think my clenbuterol is just too old because I've up'd the dose to 60mcg and for my size that should have me shaking. So, I think I'm going to throw it out and get something else to help me lose 7-10 lbs for summer.

Any of you have recommendations for the best diet pill? I don't really need energy, just want to control my healthy appetite to get ripped. Of course fat burning is helpful too.

There's so many out there so I was hoping I could get experienced users to give me "heads up" to the best.

Thanks!

Hey t2theknee,

You have read my posts & I have always said that losing fat/weight or achieving any fitness goals is really 80 % diet...
I really believe that, I'm sorry to say, but there aren't any "diet pills" out there that will garantee u any results, when it comes to losing fat is all about diet...

Not even AAS will do this, it really comes down to diet, why don't u post what your diet looks like?, sometimes we think we are eating the right way & we don't realize we are eating too little, & when this happens our bodies adapt to the low calories by storing most calories as fat... eating too little won't help in your journey to lose fat.. What will help is maintaining a deficit caloric diet that allows u to get all the nutrients your body needs.

There are many "fat burner" OTC supplements out there, but I will be honest with u, just like I said before, it's all in the diet... Abs are made in the kitchen, there are many factors that come into play with having a "six pack" genetics play a big role in you having a 4 pack, 6 pack or 6 pack or just having a flat stomach.. that with a combination of a good diet & training it's what will get u there.

 

[t2theknee]

Thanks Mrs. P!

It's funny reading what you wrote because I constantly say the same thing to people all the time. I 100% agree with you. It's just that lately I've been hungry and it's hard to eat right. I find that the only way I get lean is to totally cut back my intake. Nothing has ever worked other than the taking in much less food than normal. The workouts are always there iregardless. But let me give you an example and maybe you can see if I'm doing something wrong. BTW, I really appreciate it!!

Breakfast: Oatmeal with walnuts and fruit and fat free milk or egg whites with spinach, feta, tomatoes, 3 cups of coffee with cream

Mid morning snack: protein drink or whole wheat english muffin with peanut butter and 8 oz fat free milk

Lunch: Salad with kidney & garbonzo beans, feta, avocado, veggies sometimes with chicken or lean quisine with avocado

Mid afternoon snack: tuna package or pumpkins seeds, or brown rice with beef or chicken (small portion, like 1/2 cup rice)

Dinner: Same as lunch or sometimes chicken with salad or a veg

2-3 x per week I have 2 glasses of wine and a piece of dark chocolate ;-)

I'm not one to measure things out so hopefully you can get an idea without complete measurements.

Thanks!!

 

[Mrs P]

Thanks Mrs. P!

It's funny reading what you wrote because I constantly say the same thing to people all the time. I 100% agree with you. It's just that lately I've been hungry and it's hard to eat right. I find that the only way I get lean is to totally cut back my intake. Nothing has ever worked other than the taking in much less food than normal. The workouts are always there iregardless. But let me give you an example and maybe you can see if I'm doing something wrong. BTW, I really appreciate it!!

Breakfast: Oatmeal with walnuts and fruit and fat free milk or egg whites with spinach, feta, tomatoes, 3 cups of coffee with cream

How man y egg whites here ? It's important to keep your first meal high protein

Mid morning snack: protein drink or whole wheat english muffin with peanut butter and 8 oz fat free milk
(If this is your post workout meal, I would keep the complex carbs, if not stay to high protein low carb)

Lunch: Salad with kidney & garbonzo beans, feta, avocado, veggies sometimes with chicken or lean quisine with avocado
(how many grams of protein are u having here ?)

Mid afternoon snack: tuna package or pumpkins seeds, or brown rice with beef or chicken (small portion, like 1/2 cup rice)
(I would keep my complex carbs earlier in the day & time them with my training, timing of carbs are important if trying to cut )


Dinner: Same as lunch or sometimes chicken with salad or a veg
(U should stick with dark green veggies here & lean protein)

2-3 x per week I have 2 glasses of wine and a piece of dark chocolate ;-)
(can't balme u on the vino, I enjoy a glass of wine occationally too, if u keep it within your caloric allowance, u should be fine, as long as u do it moderately)

I'm not one to measure things out so hopefully you can get an idea without complete measurements.



Thanks!!

You know I was miscalculating what I was eating too at first, u really have to keep a food journal, it's the only way to really know what u are eating.. check out fitday.com u can log everything u eat & it breaks down your macros for u.

I really think if u tweak your diet u can lose those 7-10 lbs with no problem, u will be amazed what a little tweaking on the diet can do for u.

 

[t2theknee]

I think you're right! I'm not getting enough protein and maybe my carbs are at the wrong time. I usually work out after work from 5pm to 8pm. I'm usually pretty hungry after but I don't have carbs in the evening. Are you saying that I should eat carbs post workout? I'm gonna check out fitday.com and work on my diet for sure!

 

[Mrs P]

I think you're right! I'm not getting enough protein and maybe my carbs are at the wrong time. I usually work out after work from 5pm to 8pm. I'm usually pretty hungry after but I don't have carbs in the evening. Are you saying that I should eat carbs post workout? I'm gonna check out fitday.com and work on my diet for sure!

Carbs post workout help in muscle recovery, Post workout, you need at least 1.5 grams of carbohydrates per kilogram body weight.
So u need at least 20 grams of protein and 5-10 grams of simple carbohydrates post workout.
(how much you should consume depends on how hard you worked out), your body weight and your total calorie intake that day but a 2:1 carbohydrate to protein ratio is what u should aim for.

In your case since your training late afternoon early evening,
eat a breakfast and lunch high/moderate in carbohydrates, low in fat and moderate in protein, then post workout eat a high protein & include some complex carbs,
Your metabolism peaks after exercise and remains high for about an hour, so it's good to eat soon after your workout.

It's important that u start loging in your food, so u can really know what you are eating, & then u can tweak it accordingly.

 

[Detour5]

You don't give much of an idea of portion size so in terms of amount we can't say whether you are eating too much. I personally don't think that is the best diet/food choices for your goals, and the clen possibly didn't work because you don't have your diet nailed (it can still fail to work if that and training aren't doing it's thing!)

I also think you need to outline what your training is, for eg do you do just cardio or just weights or pilates etc etc... Your actual activities will change your caloric needs.

Other than that Mrs P gave great advice and was right about another thing - you look great already

 

[t2theknee]

Thanks Detour,

Yes, I think I need to dial in my diet and pay more attention to the amount and the timing. I lift weights 4x per week for about 1.5 hrs. then do cardio 5x per week for 1 hr.

I went to the fitday.com and I was pretty surprised how much fat I'm taking in. Those avocado's and peanut butter are killing my diet. I know they're healthy but I believe this is keeping the layer of fat that's hiding some of my definition. So thank you so much Mrs. P for turning me on to this site.

I'm motivated to jump start a more serious diet now, yeeeee!

I would love to read what you two are eating!! Send it my way, I'm going to the grocery store today ;-)

 

[Mt-momma]

That's a lot of lifting AND cardio. You may not be taking in nearly enough cals to support that, so your body could be holding on to fat. If it were me, I'd chill with that amount of cardio and stick to weights alone and see how your body responds. Or do weights and just 30 mins of HIIT cardio 3x per week.

It's always nice to see the breakdown of what you're really taking in isn't it ?

 

[t2theknee]

LOL~ I couldn't believe the breakdown Mt-momma! Here I thought I was an expert and eating superb! It's a great tool. Hmm, I don't know if I could give up my cardio, I dance 3x a week but I wouldn't mind giving up one day. I'm gonna tweak my diet and see where that takes me but now I'm really on a mission to find the perfect diet. Thanks!!

 

[Mrs P]

Thanks Detour,

Yes, I think I need to dial in my diet and pay more attention to the amount and the timing. I lift weights 4x per week for about 1.5 hrs. then do cardio 5x per week for 1 hr.

I went to the fitday.com and I was pretty surprised how much fat I'm taking in. Those avocado's and peanut butter are killing my diet. I know they're healthy but I believe this is keeping the layer of fat that's hiding some of my definition. So thank you so much Mrs. P for turning me on to this site.

I'm motivated to jump start a more serious diet now, yeeeee!

I would love to read what you two are eating!! Send it my way, I'm going to the grocery store today ;-)

Glad I was able to help
Fitday.com is a great site.. finding the right diet could be tricky, but once u do, it really makes all the difference.

I personally do well with low carb diets, there's a term called "carb sensitive" & eventhough the term it's quite controversial, I believe I am, I know how many carbs my body needs & does well with, so I stick by that. When I'm cutting I usually carb cycle, it works really good for me.


I could post my diet for u, but u need to tailor your diet to meet your specific needs & activity level.

The concept of dieting is pretty simple,
it's mainly calories in versus calories out, but the trick is to learn what works for u & what doesn't.

You can start by figuring out your TDEE (total daily expenditure) and from there u can create a caloric deficit, (u can do this through diet or training) going 300-500 calories under your TDEE will create a deficit..
Deficit= weight/ fat loss.

You do want to make sure u consume enough protein/ carbs/ good fats.. and that u are eating enough, one of the bigegst mistakes people make when trying to cut/lose fat is to eat too little, you don't want your body to adapt to this, your metabolism will slow down & u will end up stalling or not losing the fat.

 

[Mrs P]

LOL~ I couldn't believe the breakdown Mt-momma! Here I thought I was an expert and eating superb! It's a great tool. Hmm, I don't know if I could give up my cardio, I dance 3x a week but I wouldn't mind giving up one day. I'm gonna tweak my diet and see where that takes me but now I'm really on a mission to find the perfect diet. Thanks!!

I'll be honest with u, I don't do a ton of cardio, (I do cardio 2-3 X a week) I think the trick is to know & do the "right" amount of cardio needed to achieve your goals.

This is where genetics come into play I believe, I think some need to do more than others.. I think diet is what plays the most important factor when it comes to leaning out, and of course that combined with a good training rouitne.

 

[t2theknee]

Mrs. P~You've been alot of help and I think I just needed a lil support with my diet. I am on track now to be stricter with my diet because I know what I eat is 80% how my body looks. The workouts are just what helps me burn calories and get my muscle. I would still like to see what your diet looks like if you don't mind. Thank you again!!

 

[Mrs P]

Mrs. P~You've been alot of help and I think I just needed a lil support with my diet. I am on track now to be stricter with my diet because I know what I eat is 80% how my body looks. The workouts are just what helps me burn calories and get my muscle. I would still like to see what your diet looks like if you don't mind. Thank you again!!

Hey t2theknee,

No of course I don't mind, I'm 5'6 and weigh around 127 lbs,
I keep my calories between 1,850-2,000 I'm not trying to lose weight just trying to mantain.
(so what I basically do is devide the total cals by 6 & that gives me an idea to how many cals I should eat per meal.


What I eat in a day looks like this:

(1st meal): 6 egg whites,1 whole egg, 1 cup spinach 2 tsp of homemade guacamole, 3 slices of turkey, 1 slice of cheese (scrambled) 1 slice of Ezequiel bread.

(2nd meal) 2-3 hours later: 4 oz chicken breast or any other lean white protein, 1 baked sweet potato or 1/2 a cup of brown rice or quinoa
1 cup of green veggies

(I usually do my workout after my 2nd meal)

(3rd meal): Post workout either a whey protein shake (with some fruit blended in)
(Fast digesting carbs are ideal post-workout to help maximize the insulin effect and replenish glycogen) or I eat some protein, fruit, & some fast digesting carbs. (like a small potato or any other starchy carbs)

U want to keep your post workout meal low in fat since fat slows down digestion..
u want to replinish your muscles as soon as possible, this is why a whey protein shake is a great choice since it hits the blood stream fast.


(4th Meal) 2-3 hours later: Either tuna, or 4 oz salmon or any lean white protein, 1 cup of dark green veggies.


(5th Meal) 2 hours later: 8-12 almonds and a teaspoon of peanut butter or 1/2 a cup of green yogurt (plain)

(6th meal) 2-3 hours later: 4 oz lean protein
(U want to make this meal lean red meat since it's slow in digestion)
1 1/2 cup of dark green veggies

This is what my regular diet looks like, I do change things around, when I carb cycle it's different.

 

[Mt-momma]

Hey t2theknee,

No of course I don't mind, I'm 5'6 and weigh around 127 lbs,
I keep my calories between 1,850-2,000 I'm not trying to lose weight just trying to mantain.
(so what I basically do is devide the total cals by 6 & that gives me an idea to how many cals I should eat per meal.


What I eat in a day looks like this:

(1st meal): 6 egg whites,1 whole egg, 1 cup spinach 2 tsp of homemade guacamole, 3 slices of turkey, 1 slice of cheese (scrambled) 1 slice of Ezequiel bread.

(2nd meal) 2-3 hours later: 4 oz chicken breast or any other lean white protein, 1 baked sweet potato or 1/2 a cup of brown rice or quinoa
1 cup of green veggies

(I usually do my workout after my 2nd meal)

(3rd meal): Post workout either a whey protein shake (with some fruit blended in)
(Fast digesting carbs are ideal post-workout to help maximize the insulin effect and replenish glycogen) or I eat some protein, fruit, & some fast digesting carbs. (like a small potato or any other starchy carbs)

U want to keep your post workout meal low in fat since fat slows down digestion..
u want to replinish your muscles as soon as possible, this is why a whey protein shake is a great choice since it hits the blood stream fast.


(4th Meal) 2-3 hours later: Either tuna, or 4 oz salmon or any lean white protein, 1 cup of dark green veggies.


(5th Meal) 2 hours later: 8-12 almonds and a teaspoon of peanut butter or 1/2 a cup of green yogurt (plain)

(6th meal) 2-3 hours later: 4 oz lean protein
(U want to make this meal lean red meat since it's slow in digestion)
1 1/2 cup of dark green veggies

This is what my regular diet looks like, I do change things around, when I carb cycle it's different.

Lol @ 5th meal- green yogurt. Hehe, sure you meant greek. Doesn't take much to amuse me this morning...super sleep deprived!

 

[t2theknee]

Great! Thanks for some ideas. I changed my eating to:
2 egg whites, 1 egg yold, 1/2 cup oatmeal = 1st meal
salad with 1/2 avocado, garbonzo beans, kidney beans, 1 cup chicken breast = 2nd meal
protein drink = 3rd meal
workout
post workout = whey protein drink
lean meat with salad = 4th meal

And that's it. I will also have cheat days on the weekend ;-) But I think this should help me cut.

Also, the clen is kicking in finally, I upped the dose to 80 mcg and I don't feel hungry and lots of energy. I'm getting some cramping though, and have added Taurine and lots of water and potassium.

Thanks again!!

 

[Mrs P]

Lol @ 5th meal- green yogurt. Hehe, sure you meant greek. Doesn't take much to amuse me this morning...super sleep deprived!

No girl, I meant green yogurt, it's the new Greek yogurt.. haven't u heard of it ??

btw, I was soooo sleep deprived yesterday,
I'm so laughing on that typo Linsane2:

 

[Mrs P]

Great! Thanks for some ideas. I changed my eating to:
2 egg whites, 1 egg yold, 1/2 cup oatmeal = 1st meal
salad with 1/2 avocado, garbonzo beans, kidney beans, 1 cup chicken breast = 2nd meal
protein drink = 3rd meal
workout
post workout = whey protein drink
lean meat with salad = 4th meal

And that's it. I will also have cheat days on the weekend ;-) But I think this should help me cut.

Also, the clen is kicking in finally, I upped the dose to 80 mcg and I don't feel hungry and lots of energy. I'm getting some cramping though, and have added Taurine and lots of water and potassium.

Thanks again!!

No problem girl, glad I could help

 

[Tombraider]

I know this is going to sound really silly! But sometimes when people are hungry alot it could be worms... Your appetite could also be emotional eating or just increase in metabolism! Clen did that to me made me reeeaaalllyyy hungry which made it so hard to diet! Mrs.P was right when she said clen isn worth the trouble...

 

[t2theknee]

I know this is going to sound really silly! But sometimes when people are hungry alot it could be worms... Your appetite could also be emotional eating or just increase in metabolism! Clen did that to me made me reeeaaalllyyy hungry which made it so hard to diet! Mrs.P was right when she said clen isn worth the trouble...

Thanks! Ya, not feelin the clen too much, it was worth a try but I think that perfecting my diet and hittin the weights is always best. As for worms, wow! I doubt I have worms, maybe when I was a kid and played in the dirt and chewed on my nailsl...but I'm all grown up now. Haha! I workout hard and as you said, it probably is my metabolism and perhaps hormonal hunger cus it's usually around that time, lol!