Best pct?

you can get your post cycle therapy (pct) from the rui banner, I would go with clomid and nolva, standard but it works fine.
 
Me personally would go 50mg Clomid for 4 weeks, aromasin on week2 @ 10mg for 10 days, 10 days off and then 10mg eod for another 10 days
 
ceo said:
HCG, clomid, aromasin. Then, pickup a good source of nettle root extract (I know what I like) and take that till you die.
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I assume you are talking about
3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran . Yes this is a great add considering Clomiphene and tamoxifen both a rise in SHBG. Hundreds of studies proving this just do a google search on "tamoxifen raises shbg" or different variations.

Its a known fact that SHBG binds up to 98 percent of the steroid hormones in the blood including testosterone. SHBG in fact has a higher higher affinity for testosterone then anything else and will cause "bioavailable testosterone" to decrease. Not a good thing during post cycle therapy (pct) considering test is already low now add on even less is bioavailable do to the rise in SHBG.

So that is where adding 3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran would come in handy. Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their ... [Planta Med. 1997] - PubMed result

Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).

Schöttner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.

Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universität Bayreuth, Germany.

Polar extracts of the stinging nettle (Urtica dioica L.) roots contain the ligans (+)-neoolivil, (-)-secoisolariciresinol, dehydrodiconiferyl alcohol, isolariciresinol, pinoresinol, and 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. These compounds were either isolated from Urtica roots, or obtained semisynthetically. Their affinity to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) was tested in an in vitro assay. In addition, the main intestinal transformation products of plant lignans in humans, enterodiol and enterolactone, together with enterofuran were checked for their activity. All lignans except (-)-pinoresinol developed a binding affinity to SHBG in the in vitro assay. The affinity of (-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran was outstandingly high. These findings are discussed with respect to potential beneficial effects of plant lignans on benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).


Incorporating other methods into post cycle therapy (pct) is only smart. Now you get the best of nolva/clomid with less of the negatives. Win win for ever one. Nothing wrong with "standard" but I am a much bigger fan of above standard and I would think this is the reason why all of us are here in the first place. To achieve "above the standard" .
 
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pushinweight said:
What should I use for post cycle therapy (pct) after 10 week cycle of 300mg Deca and 600mg Teste a week? Thanks in advance guys.
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push ure test to 12 weeks and ure last deca injection should be at week 10.

need2 said:
I assume you are talking about
3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran . Yes this is a great add considering Clomiphene and tamoxifen both a rise in SHBG. Hundreds of studies proving this just do a google search on "tamoxifen raises shbg" or different variations.

Its a known fact that SHBG binds up to 98 percent of the steroid hormones in the blood including testosterone. SHBG in fact has a higher higher affinity for testosterone then anything else and will cause "bioavailable testosterone" to decrease. Not a good thing during post cycle therapy (pct) considering test is already low now add on even less is bioavailable do to the rise in SHBG.

So that is where adding 3,4 Divanillyltetrahydrofuran would come in handy. Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their ... [Planta Med. 1997] - PubMed result

Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).

Schöttner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.

Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universität Bayreuth, Germany.

Polar extracts of the stinging nettle (Urtica dioica L.) roots contain the ligans (+)-neoolivil, (-)-secoisolariciresinol, dehydrodiconiferyl alcohol, isolariciresinol, pinoresinol, and 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. These compounds were either isolated from Urtica roots, or obtained semisynthetically. Their affinity to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) was tested in an in vitro assay. In addition, the main intestinal transformation products of plant lignans in humans, enterodiol and enterolactone, together with enterofuran were checked for their activity. All lignans except (-)-pinoresinol developed a binding affinity to SHBG in the in vitro assay. The affinity of (-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran was outstandingly high. These findings are discussed with respect to potential beneficial effects of plant lignans on benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).


Incorporating other methods into post cycle therapy (pct) is only smart. Now you get the best of nolva/clomid with less of the negatives. Win win for ever one. Nothing wrong with "standard" but I am a much bigger fan of above standard and I would think this is the reason why all of us are here in the first place. To achieve "above the standard" .
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r u refering to nettle roots??? lol
 
nice to see a change of scenery. nettle extracts/roots have ben praised for a lot of different ailments including hair loss as well.
 
Scarz said:
nice to see a change of scenery. nettle extracts/roots have ben praised for a lot of different ailments including hair loss as well.
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L-carnitine-L-tartrate has been shown to do the same, I actually noticed hair growth on my scalp over a 4 month usage.
 
no one uses tamo around here?? i havn't heard tamo be mentioned once..

im used to running tamo/clomi together with a taper for pct..
 
jamyjamjr said:
no one uses tamo around here?? i havn't heard tamo be mentioned once..

im used to running tamo/clomi together with a taper for pct..
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alot of guys either choose one or the other. some get some visual/depressive sides with clomid so they run tamox. others (such as stone) believe clomid is superior in rejuvenating HPTA. i personally run both, but its personal preference.
 
ill run clomid/tamo regularly.. but if i were to run tren then id throw some adex or lethro in there..

rule of thumb is the harder the gear is on your junk, the stronger your post cycle therapy (pct) has to be..

with tren being a dht derived steroid, it shuts you down fast... if i recall correctely deca is also a dht derived steroid.. aggressive post cycle therapy (pct) is a must.. so i would at least run clomid and tamo together..
 
Bro to be honest with you, Iv been around these boards a lot. I would stic to what SCNTO told you. He is one of the most knowledable members and seriously what he is telling you sounds good. If you want maybe substitue the clomid for toremifene and add some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) but that sounds like a solid PCT
 
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