Best way to burn fat, without any chemical nonsense

[bustinass]

is with the diet ofcourse

if you are still thinking a calorie is still a calorie and the deficit is the only thing that matters, you are in for a rude awakening

1 hormone is KEY in fat buildup and fatburning, can you guess which one? it is: INSULIN

control insulin and you control yor bodies ability to store AND burn fat

if there are questions aI can answer and clarify but for now just think about 1 thing: insuline

i aint doing any cardio, eat over maintenance and train 30mins in the gym few times a week and look better then 90% of gym goers and 99.9% of general population. why? because i control my insulin and it doesnt control me

 

[cybrsage]

How do you control your insulin?

 

[bustinass]

How do you control your insulin?

through your diet

what spikes the insulin and brings horrid damage to the body through elevated insulin?--->carbs

proteins can spike insulin but much less and only if you eat too much so thats already much better and fats dont spike it at all, fats have glycemic index of zero

insulin is key

 

[cybrsage]

Well yes, simple carbs can spike insulin - but an insulin spike is not necessarily a good thing. Insulin tells the cells to absorb glucose, fatty acids and amino acids, stop breaking down glucose, fatty acids and amino acids, and to start building glycogen from glucose; fats (triglycerides) from glycerol and fatty acids; and proteins from amino acids. So an insulin spike tells the body to create fatty acids, which are then absorbed by the fat cells and stored - which means the fat cells get bigger - aka, you get fatter.

The muscles and all other cells also absorb the fatty acids and use them as instant energy for growth and repair. This is one of the reasons why people eat a post workout meal which includes a simple carb, so the body starts to build muscle cells and uses the fatty acids in the bloodstream to help it do so. Yet without being on a caloric deficit, you will store extra fat in the body. It simply is the way it works and is why people always gain some fat while bulking.


Can you be a lot more specific about how you use your diet to cause insulin spikes to burn fat? I am readily willing to admit I am wrong, but so far everything I have researched shows that an insulin spike causes the body to store fat as well as burn it.

 

[bustinass]

you read me wrong, i said AVOID insulin splikes, not create them

you didnt get this with me saying: insulin is horrid, its damaging an fattening and what causes these spikes = carbs, you didnt get it?

 

[cybrsage]

AH! My bad, I did misread it. So if you avoid carbs, what do you use to tell the body to start absorbing amino acids and to store glycogen in the muscle cells (both of which are vital to protein synthesis and DNA replication)? Also, without a good level of insulin, IGF-1 does not function very efficiently, so new muscle cells are not created as easily. Also, insulin is vital to the brain - it enhances cognition, especially in the speech areas of the brain.

Insulin spikes are needed to trigger these things in the body, why would you want to avoid them? Like I said, they are both good and bad - but you must take the bad with the good since the good is needed if you want to build muscle.


I will ask a different question now. Can you be a lot more specific about what you do and what its intended results are? It appears you eat a caloric surplus and still lose weight and that you say this is because you avoid insulin spikes. Can you explain in specifics? I am always willing to learn, but I cannot learn when you say so little.

 

[bustinass]

i am on keto diet, 80% fat, 20protein and zero carbs, nothing special or new

goal is to improve health by avoiding all sugars and carbs and insulin spikes

i dont thinka refeed is needed and brain and body function more then fine on ketones. i dont like being kicked out of ketosis only to go back into it again. DEEP keto adaptation is something very few reeach because they refeed often but once you reach it its a great place. so for me no refeeds needed, every. brain actually prefers ketones as alzheimers and depression have been easily cured with ketones and high fats. diabetes 2 can be turned around in weeks completely with ketoo, again nothing new

so my goal is to not feel hungry, have endless energy, train hard, lose bodyfat while eating delicious foods like bacon and eggs and you know all the rest, nothing new

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

i am on keto diet, 80% fat, 20protein and zero carbs, nothing special or new

goal is to improve health by avoiding all sugars and carbs and insulin spikes

i dont thinka refeed is needed and brain and body function more then fine on ketones. i dont like being kicked out of ketosis only to go back into it again. DEEP keto adaptation is something very few reeach because they refeed often but once you reach it its a great place. so for me no refeeds needed, every. brain actually prefers ketones as alzheimers and depression have been easily cured with ketones and high fats. diabetes 2 can be turned around in weeks completely with ketoo, again nothing new

so my goal is to not feel hungry, have endless energy, train hard, lose bodyfat while eating delicious foods like bacon and eggs and you know all the rest, nothing new

See, your confusing what works when your on cycle, with what works when your off-cycle.

Refeeds are need because when your dieting and trying to lose fat - leptin crashes. The ONLY way to upregulate leptin is with high carb, high calorie refeeds.
Also - if your dieting then your going to deplete muscle glycogen and without a high carb day at some point, your going to be sacrificing training performance & potentially muscle if off cycle.

I also want an answer to the question cybersage posed - do you believe that you can lose bodyfat if eating at maintenance provided you control insulin?
Or are you willing to accept that you can only do this on drugs - tren, etc - and it has jackshit to do with insulin control?

 

[bustinass]

i presume you never have done real keto diet, judging by your comments. otherwise you wouldnt be asking the 2nd question

refeeds are not needed, i have yet to see something of a fact in this except bro science from bro's who just crave carbs and want to indulgde but need a reason to do it. i say refeeds aint needed

you can lose bodyfat by eating OVER maintenance even, ofcourse. Insulin control bodyfat buildup and not just calories

 

[Onk]

i presume you never have done real keto diet, judging by your comments. otherwise you wouldnt be asking the 2nd question

refeeds are not needed, i have yet to see something of a fact in this except bro science from bro's who just crave carbs and want to indulgde but need a reason to do it. i say refeeds aint needed

you can lose bodyfat by eating OVER maintenance even, ofcourse. Insulin control bodyfat buildup and not just calories

I have done keto when I used to compete naturally. You def needed to refeed. Have you ever done it when natural?

 

[bustinass]

natural, whats that lol

i see no reason to train natural at all and if some wish i bless them but for me natural training ended 10yrs ago or so.

keto with natties is pretty hard, they end up looking like sticks, lean but like twigs and dead tired. keto enhanced = the way to go, enhanced anyway is the way to go

 

[cybrsage]

But then you are taking chemicals if you are not natural, are you not? I think that is what is confusing everyone. You said "Best way to burn fat, without any chemical nonsense" and then you are injecting (just a guess - could be using orals) chemicals while on keto.

I agree, keto can work wonders, but without either a day of high carbs now and again or the addition of chemicals, you will sacrifice muscle gains big time.

 

[49ER]

But then you are taking chemicals if you are not natural, are you not? I think that is what is confusing everyone. You said "Best way to burn fat, without any chemical nonsense" and then you are injecting (just a guess - could be using orals) chemicals while on keto.

I agree, keto can work wonders, but without either a day of high carbs now and again or the addition of chemicals, you will sacrifice muscle gains big time.

I think his words get confused i know how he speaks so i usually understand. Believe me he would never suggest training or dieting natural lol he probably meant other stuff besides aas maybe clen ect....?

 

[bustinass]

But then you are taking chemicals if you are not natural, are you not? I think that is what is confusing everyone. You said "Best way to burn fat, without any chemical nonsense" and then you are injecting (just a guess - could be using orals) chemicals while on keto.

I agree, keto can work wonders, but without either a day of high carbs now and again or the addition of chemicals, you will sacrifice muscle gains big time.

nah regardless of juice or not keto protects the muscles, just dont go TOO low in calories

and why would anybody be in this sport without even as much as 200test per week is beyond me. i dont get naturals at all except for say first 3 yrs but after that no

 

[bigben66]

So why title this article 'without all the chemical nonsense' then?

 

[bustinass]

So why title this article 'without all the chemical nonsense' then?

i was talking about supplements and shit like t3 and clen. steroids dont burn fat, sorry to inform you, they never do and never will BURN fat. only diet and t3, clen and GH can do that, not test and tren and mast and dbol, they dont burn fat

 

[Prowl]

So do u have to be in a calorie deficit when ur are on the keto diet??

 

[bustinass]

So do u have to be in a calorie deficit when ur are on the keto diet??

not by default. calories do matter yes but what matters MORE is insulin levels

for example you could be eating UNDER maintenance and still eat lots of carbs and have insulin bukakke in you and gain fat while you lose muscles from lower calories, vice versa the same

so BEST thing is keto and under maintenance calories but controlling insulin is more important then just calories and total macros.

 

[bonexyster]

You can drink sugar free lemon concentrate, apple cider vinegar and supplement with cinnamon or alpha lipoic acid before every meal. Use coconut oil instead of any other oil. Begin hgh or peptides. All of these regulate or lower insulin and cause fat loss. I focus on this when I cut. The only other thing I pay attention to is my protien macro, protien is high calorie and causes a high insulin spike.

I watch total calorie count, reduce insulin spikes and watch protien macro.

 

[bonexyster]

You can drink sugar free lemon concentrate, apple cider vinegar and supplement with cinnamon or alpha lipoic acid before every meal. Use coconut oil instead of any other oil. Begin hgh or peptides. All of these regulate or lower insulin and cause fat loss. I focus on this when I cut. The only other thing I pay attention to is my protien macro, protien is high calorie and causes a high insulin spike.

I watch total calorie count, reduce insulin spikes and watch protien macro.