Best way to burn fat, without any chemical nonsense

[bustinass]

You can drink sugar free lemon concentrate, apple cider vinegar and supplement with cinnamon or alpha lipoic acid before every meal. Use coconut oil instead of any other oil. Begin hgh or peptides. All of these regulate or lower insulin and cause fat loss. I focus on this when I cut. The only other thing I pay attention to is my protien macro, protien is high calorie and causes a high insulin spike.

I watch total calorie count, reduce insulin spikes and watch protien macro.

very good avice, spot on

insulin is key, got to keep it DOWN by all means otherwise ur fucked

insulin spikes are also VERY unhealthy so do it for this reason too

 

[49ER]

You can drink sugar free lemon concentrate, apple cider vinegar and supplement with cinnamon or alpha lipoic acid before every meal. Use coconut oil instead of any other oil. Begin hgh or peptides. All of these regulate or lower insulin and cause fat loss. I focus on this when I cut. The only other thing I pay attention to is my protien macro, protien is high calorie and causes a high insulin spike.

I watch total calorie count, reduce insulin spikes and watch protien macro.

can I hire you to do my diet? I don't have any moneythough lol

 

[Megatron28]

nah regardless of juice or not keto protects the muscles, just dont go TOO low in calories

and why would anybody be in this sport without even as much as 200test per week is beyond me. i dont get naturals at all except for say first 3 yrs but after that no

Keto does not protect muscles regardless of everything else! You need protein. You can eat literally zero carbs (not even fiber) and achieve a perfect ketogenic state and you will absolutely lose muscle without consuming sufficient protein. Now you are just making up stupid shit that is going to get someone hurt.

I love the ketogenic diet and advocate for it when it applies to someone's circumstances. So don't take this to mean that I am anti-keto. What I am against is your constantly giving out horrible advice. I don't want to have to ban you because we appreciate good dialogue here, but you are menacingly dangerous. This is akin to telling people they can't get pregnant the first time they have sexual intercourse or if they do it doggy style.

 

[bonexyster]

I accomplish the same thing with high carb low fat diet. If you consume low glycemic carbs and ratio it correctly it takes your body longer to break down and digest the carbs that create the initial insulin response to store fat. I get weak on keto so i don't even try it. Controlling insulin for fat loss I actively use that approach myself.

 

[bonexyster]

can I hire you to do my diet? I don't have any moneythough lol

You spend it all on tren!

Hahaha

 

[halfwit]

Keto does not protect muscles regardless of everything else! You need protein. You can eat literally zero carbs (not even fiber) and achieve a perfect ketogenic state and you will absolutely lose muscle without consuming sufficient protein. Now you are just making up stupid shit that is going to get someone hurt.

I love the ketogenic diet and advocate for it when it applies to someone's circumstances. So don't take this to mean that I am anti-keto. What I am against is your constantly giving out horrible advice. I don't want to have to ban you because we appreciate good dialogue here, but you are menacingly dangerous. This is akin to telling people they can't get pregnant the first time they have sexual intercourse or if they do it doggy style .

Ohhhh shiiiiiiiit, now I know where I went wrong. D'oh!

 

[bustinass]

Keto does not protect muscles regardless of everything else! You need protein. You can eat literally zero carbs (not even fiber) and achieve a perfect ketogenic state and you will absolutely lose muscle without consuming sufficient protein. Now you are just making up stupid shit that is going to get someone hurt.

I love the ketogenic diet and advocate for it when it applies to someone's circumstances. So don't take this to mean that I am anti-keto. What I am against is your constantly giving out horrible advice. I don't want to have to ban you because we appreciate good dialogue here, but you are menacingly dangerous. This is akin to telling people they can't get pregnant the first time they have sexual intercourse or if they do it doggy style.

where did i say you dont need protein, you can read between the lines or what?

protein is a must, its essential macros. all i said was high fat keto diets protect the muscle aand YOU thought i said protein isnt needed, lol

show me where i said protein isnt needed and you can live without it as you claim i said it, just SHOW me and PROVE me. you cant!

i dont give dangerous advice, i give top notch advice, TOP notch

 

[Prowl]

So if I consumed my body weight in protein witch is 215ibs, that many grams of protein will keep me out of ketosis? ? I feel like I would be loosing alot of muscle at 150g max of protein.

 

[bustinass]

So if I consumed my body weight in protein witch is 215ibs, that many grams of protein will keep me out of ketosis? ? I feel like I would be loosing alot of muscle at 150g max of protein.

correct, you would prpbably be kicked out of keto. in keto the high fats protect the muscles so you can get away with MUCH less protein, i am 97kg and on n120grams of protein, for months, trust me no muscle loss

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

correct, you would prpbably be kicked out of keto. in keto the high fats protect the muscles so you can get away with MUCH less protein, i am 97kg and on n120grams of protein, for months, trust me no muscle loss

More bullshit.

The original keto diet was NOT designed for fat loss - it was designed to treat epilepsy THAT is why it was close to 90% fat.

Fat does NOTHING to protect your muscles, literally nothing - on the diet you suggest all your going to end up doing is sacrificing muscle, its completely idiotic.
YOU don't see the muscle loss because of the STEROIDS - something you keep ignoring again and again.

Here is another study showing that keto vs non-keto = NO meta-bolic advantage whatsoever:

Ketogenic low-carbohydrate diets have no ********* advantage over nonketogenic low-carbohydrate diets. - PubMed - NCBI

Conclusion: "KLC and NLC diets were equally effective in reducing body weight and insulin resistance, but the KLC diet was associated with several adverse meta-bolic and emotional effects. The use of ketogenic diets for weight loss is not warranted."

People felt like SHIT on the keto diet but not the non-keto and BOTH lost the same amount of fat.

 

[49ER]

Lol i Never understand your guys argument im just ot that smart but as far as ive always understood is only steroids like tren for example i know that protects muscle i lived off lentils, rice and tren haha

 

[bustinass]

More bullshit.

The original keto diet was NOT designed for fat loss - it was designed to treat epilepsy THAT is why it was close to 90% fat.

Fat does NOTHING to protect your muscles, literally nothing - on the diet you suggest all your going to end up doing is sacrificing muscle, its completely idiotic.
YOU don't see the muscle loss because of the STEROIDS - something you keep ignoring again and again.

Here is another study showing that keto vs non-keto = NO meta-bolic advantage whatsoever:

Ketogenic low-carbohydrate diets have no ********* advantage over nonketogenic low-carbohydrate diets. - PubMed - NCBI

Conclusion: "KLC and NLC diets were equally effective in reducing body weight and insulin resistance, but the KLC diet was associated with several adverse meta-bolic and emotional effects. The use of ketogenic diets for weight loss is not warranted."

People felt like SHIT on the keto diet but not the non-keto and BOTH lost the same amount of fat.

a person doesnt need much protein on a keto diet, certainly less then what most take and too much protein kicks them out of keto. just truth

btw when you stop trolling me, wil you EVER post a picture of yourself of just continue google copy paste to appear smart but just can look things up? I am wondering if you EVER put your knowledge into real life, i doubt you have otherwise you would have some pics. so you are a fat skinny fuck reliying on other poeples work and science to appear smart. fool

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

a person doesnt need much protein on a keto diet, certainly less then what most take and too much protein kicks them out of keto. just truth

btw when you stop trolling me, wil you EVER post a picture of yourself of just continue google copy paste to appear smart but just can look things up? I am wondering if you EVER put your knowledge into real life, i doubt you have otherwise you would have some pics. so you are a fat skinny fuck reliying on other poeples work and science to appear smart. fool

That study shows that keto doesn't matter and this is what you said originally:

in keto the high fats protect the muscles so you can get away with MUCH less protein loss

Fat doesn't protect muscles whatsoever, high protein does so with LESS protein your more at risk of muscle loss.

You want me to stop calling your BS? Post some real evidence, not this "look at my pic I know it all" shit.

 

[bonexyster]

Casually sipping my glass of apple cider water eating my chicken breast on wheat with a slice of fat free cheese with pickle slices.

Just watching....

All i'ma say is insulin isn't bad, if it bottoms out other hormones raise and you can still gain fat, avoiding (rapid large) insulin spikes will cause fat loss. That's why people drink apple cider or take cinnamon or other insulin mimicing supplements before meals, it avoids a quick spike shuffling more then nutrients then needed causing fat gain. As far as yalls fat to protien convo...I don't know a lot about keto..didn't study it alot because I've ran it twice and I felt absolutely horrible.

I've read keto kicks off much faster at fat loss but after a while it stalls quickly and a high carb low fat group caught up and then surpassed them in fat loss after a few months. That's when I tried it twice... IMO I didn't like the choice of foods. Meat and cheese and fish and limited nuts. I did like how you're never holding water weight on it, I stayed dry while on it.

 

[bustinass]

Casually sipping my glass of apple cider water eating my chicken breast on wheat with a slice of fat free cheese with pickle slices.

Just watching....

All i'ma say is insulin isn't bad, if it bottoms out other hormones raise and you can still gain fat, avoiding (rapid large) insulin spikes will cause fat loss. That's why people drink apple cider or take cinnamon or other insulin mimicing supplements before meals, it avoids a quick spike shuffling more then nutrients then needed causing fat gain. As far as yalls fat to protien convo...I don't know a lot about keto..didn't study it alot because I've ran it twice and I felt absolutely horrible.

I've read keto kicks off much faster at fat loss but after a while it stalls quickly and a high carb low fat group caught up and then surpassed them in fat loss after a few months. That's when I tried it twice... IMO I didn't like the choice of foods. Meat and cheese and fish and limited nuts. I did like how you're never holding water weight on it, I stayed dry while on it.

most people cannot handle carbs and then insulin matters big time, some can and can get lean on 700carbs a day. but most cannot

 

[RickyTroy]

Controlling insulin is not that easy. I took a weight management program from Texan Urgent Care. It helped me lose weight to a great extent.

 

[kuronekko]

So I understand then that the Tim Ferris diet would meet the once a week high carbs intake to upregulate leptin.