biogen lab

[BimmerDude]

Fuck it I'm gonna go ahead and give it a try with some test tren and tbol. Then I can let everyone know what the oils and injects are like. I'll stay in touch for a full review.

I'm going to get some of their stuff and give it a try too. Can't seem to get a straight answer from anybody who has used them, and they've been around long enough. If their stuff sucks, I will definitely come back here and say so.

 

[stiphy]

Fuck it I'm gonna go ahead and give it a try with some test tren and tbol. Then I can let everyone know what the oils and injects are like. I'll stay in touch for a full review.

somebody had to do it. Let us know how it goes.

 

[glubgawd]

Cheap prices = cheap raw materials + cheap quality labor = junk imo.

They're not just selling cheap because they want to be your friend.

 

[ezred]

Cheap prices = cheap raw materials + cheap quality labor = junk imo.

They're not just selling cheap because they want to be your friend.

gear is cheap. there is a teason you can get over the counter in places legit human grade gear for cheaper than domestic ugls and many international.

they dont need to jack the prices because they dont have risks they are makingthings legally they dont have to purchase powders from overseas on the dl the gear prices in most of the world are high because there are so many people between the maker and the final end user that you are gonna get price hike after price hike because they can get away with it.

 

[ezred]

then you have a nice source! it's aaallll gooood!

it was not for you than i made a primo cycle plan yet?

yeah definitely happy with my main source just nice to know whether someone with those kinds of compounds for sale at those prices is actually good for it or not.

just forfuture rederence ya know.

i dunnno about primo cycle plans man, i just started mine at 600mg a week with my test at the same after researching in the future i will probably bump that up to 800-1000 since it is a weak compound. haopy with the effects though

 

[glubgawd]

gear is cheap. there is a teason you can get over the counter in places legit human grade gear for cheaper than domestic ugls and many international.

raw powders are cheap. that's true. the cheaper they are, the shittier their purity is though.

Most countries that let you buy this stuff otc have heavily compromised purity standards for intermediates. They leave that up to the individual manufacturers who purchase them unless the intermediates are produced for exportation to the US (or other countries). In this case the price usually jumps dramatically. High quality intermediate standards are required in the US....not world wide. Now, unless you have inside information as to which specific country they're buying their raw from, I'm going to assume you can't vouch for the purity.

I HIGHLY doubt biogen is going to invest time and effort to further purify their mostly likely not very pure powder and then turn around and still sell it that cheap.

I'm not saying they're definitely dirty. I'm just saying, I can't think of a logical reason they would sell that cheap. Even if they just wanted to attract customers, they could increase their prices by a significant margin and still undercut all their competition.

I'm just saying that I personally wouldn't pump that stuff deep into my body without getting it tested first. Saving a bit of $$$ isn't worth the risk imo.

 

[ezred]

right but when you can get the same exact amps of the same pharmaceutical company's gear but pay drastically different prices based on where you are and who yoi ae buying it from, that indicates the price has nothing to do with the product. the powders are dirt cheap from the source. bt a lab might be buying thru a middle man themselves (or several, sometimes all employed by the same company) and thus they are buying more expensive powder and will mark their prices up accordingly. they also might have more staff, multiple locations, they might be short chemists and paying overtime who knows point is their overhead will dictate the base price before markup as well.

i am not talking about the science of powder purity i am talking about the economics behind the whole operation, which imo has the most effect on how much you pay for your gear.

 

[DEE151]

Fuck it I'm gonna go ahead and give it a try with some test tren and tbol. Then I can let everyone know what the oils and injects are like. I'll stay in touch for a full review.

I'm going to get some of their stuff and give it a try too. Can't seem to get a straight answer from anybody who has used them, and they've been around long enough. If their stuff sucks, I will definitely come back here and say so.

yes feed back is what we all want. I am pretty shire I will give them a try to cause the prices are insane.

 

[ezred]

yes feed back is what we all want. I am pretty shire I will give them a try to cause the prices are insane.

i've mentioned this before, but i would recommend that if you're new to the game, you hold off on giving them a try. use a lab that you've got solid references on, that you've heard from experienced people is dosed properly, etc.

try to find reviews for the SPECIFIC compounds you are wanting to use if you can. quality of compounds can often vary even within the same lab. there are many reasons for this (quality of powders, quality of the different chemists they are using, their choice to underdose more expensive compounds, etc. etc. etc.)

if you don't have something to compare it to or someone you know that has experience that can compare it to other things, i'd wait and do a cycle or 2 of someone trusted and try biogen out when you'll actually be able to know its quality just by taking it.

if you are going to try it anyway, get your bloods down mid cycle and post cycle in addition to pre-cycle and you can use those figures to give you a general idea.

 

[DEE151]

i've mentioned this before, but i would recommend that if you're new to the game, you hold off on giving them a try. use a lab that you've got solid references on, that you've heard from experienced people is dosed properly, etc.

try to find reviews for the SPECIFIC compounds you are wanting to use if you can. quality of compounds can often vary even within the same lab. there are many reasons for this (quality of powders, quality of the different chemists they are using, their choice to underdose more expensive compounds, etc. etc. etc.)

if you don't have something to compare it to or someone you know that has experience that can compare it to other things, i'd wait and do a cycle or 2 of someone trusted and try biogen out when you'll actually be able to know its quality just by taking it.

if you are going to try it anyway, get your bloods down mid cycle and post cycle in addition to pre-cycle and you can use those figures to give you a general idea.

no bro I am not new to the game. and I got some dam good sites that hook me up. but just like alot of ppl I am allways up to try a new line of gear and etc

 

[ezred]

no bro I am not new to the game. and I got some dam good sites that hook me up. but just like alot of ppl I am allways up to try a new line of gear and etc

cool just checking....

seems like you could give valuable feedback then.

all i could compare with that would be worth trying to at this point (short esters) would be npp and prop.... but they are so cheap that a lab could easily be putting out quality cheap stuff but underdosing their more expensive compounds

 

[Envyme]

bump
they g2g or what?

 

[rockets]

i woudlnt trust those crazy blends. probably just passing off something cheap as a big blend.

 

[Envyme]

This is so annoying. I get yes they're g2g from someone and then a min later I get I wouldn't trust them. I just want someone who has run them and knows them and can give me a solid answer!

 

[acerock43]

u wanna see better prices check out spartan labs if u can find them i did but havent tryed yet

 

[drewbolic]

Like i told kane the holidays was making me not able to train and diet as i should but as far as the compound the test was great really felt it and I had some estro sides that i had to use letro for the gyno.
The 3tren and mast was ok but as i said I cant give you a very accurate judgement because of my lack of training and poor diet.
I did make changes in my physyque for the better im more leaner at the a bit heavier weight and very vascular.
No PIP on any of the compounds and the tren gave me some acne.
I wish I could give you a better account.But one thing I have came to a conclusion on is I would be wary of there and other new labs crazy blends.I just dont see it withe prices and just being a small ugl to get that much mg and that many different compounds and esters the price and research and development would exceed profit for what they are charging

 

[BimmerDude]

This is so annoying. I get yes they're g2g from someone and then a min later I get I wouldn't trust them. I just want someone who has run them and knows them and can give me a solid answer!

True that the gear is cheap, but no one who is posting here has used it or has used it long enough to give a solid answer. So if you're not willing to wait to get feedback from somebody then chance it with a small order and try it yourself or go with a tried and proven source.

 

[ezred]

u wanna see better prices check out spartan labs if u can find them i did but havent tryed yet

spartan labs prices are not as low as biogen, last time i looked anyway. i don't live in the states so i dunno but a couple of people i know (from forums) are supposedly running spartan and liking it.

 

[GunLawsSuck]

Biogen is Good to go

Okay gentleman, i also had done a ton of research to find out about Biogen and recieved the same mixed info of good and bad. (*) I chose to go through a trusted source offering Biogen gear and paid quite a bit higher, but still reasonable prices for the respective compounds.
I was able to put in a big order and received gear for to other partners who have already started prop cycles with awesome results and no pain at injection sites which is a tell sign of clean gear. I myself am off cycle but i did order 3 bottles the blend 500 for my next one set for March. I will keep you all posted on the results of myself and the current use of friends on Biogen gear. Tabs did work great for my pct...Tamoxifen from Biogen and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from another source. I guess you just need to trust your source, if it seems to good to be true it usually is. I will soon be doing a test run of a small order through the Biogen website at those ridiculous prices to see if the gear even shows up and/or if it the same i received from my source.
Hopefully this is semi helpfull, BTW currently running 2ius of Elitropin Hgh ED and the wife is on 1 iu. On 3 weeks now and already see signs of tightended stomach, only sides are we both have heart burn and pressure in sternum area, not a typical side to my knowledge. If anyone is interested in the Eli hgh results let me know how to start a new thread.

* Be carefull, don't post how to get order info.

 

[Envyme]

Thanks Gun! keep is in the know.