Blast advice before TRT for a someone with Low T

[Lanbro]

Hi Guys,
I am 46 yr old male and have been lifting for 30 yrs. I am 5' 190 with a BF at 9%. I did pre-cycle bloods (below) and as you can see I am suffering from Secondary Hypo. No big deal. I plan on going on TRT at 100mg (2x 50) of Test E a week after I do a blast cycle.

FOLLICLE STIM. HORMONE. 4.7. I/UL. 1.5 - 12.4
LUTEINISING HORMONE. 4.8. I/UL. 1.7 - 8.6
TESTOSTERONE. 3.8. Nmo1/L. 7.6 - 31.4
PROLACTIN. 233. MIU/L. 86 - 324
17-Beta OESTRADIOL. 52. Pmo1/L. 99-192
Free Test 2.53 pg/ml 4.0 - 30.0

I plan on doing B&C (TRT) for the rest of my life. I have 3 kids, so I am done having children.

My Blast current cycle will be 500 Test E (2x 250 every 3.5 days). Although given my current T levels, I honestly think that 250 (2x 125) may be the way to go. I say that because my T so low right now anyway and the concept of less is more could work.

Given the information above, should I use an AI (Arimedex) which I have in in hand?
My E is very low already and dont want to crash it. I already have ED issues which I think is attributed to low E.

My thought was to have bloods done again in 6 weeks and see where I stand before I use any AI.

Also, would you use HCG? Not concerned about cosmetic Issues (i.e big balls). If I need to, I was thinking 250IU twice a week on Test E pin days but not too sure If I need too.
Maybe use some DHEA instead.

Also If I do only 250 (2x 125)of Test E I may not need it at all. When I re-test bloods what should I look for that would tell me I need HCG. Or just listen to my body (i.e aching balls which I dont want)

What I dont want to do is raise my prolactin in anyway. I am pretty sure that it should not given that I am not using any 19-Nor products (like DECA). Not sure if DHEA has any effect on prolactin.

Thank you to Megatron for answering my PM's. I dint want to tie up his box so I thought I would post here.

 

[tbonexl]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

 

[Lanbro]

Thanks. I have read it a few times. My questions are tied to my blood tests and that is why I am asking.

 

[cybrsage]

I would wait on the AI for a few weeks but get a blood test after 3 weeks and after 6 weeks just to see what your E2 level is doing. That way you can do something about the E2 if it starts to scream upwards. As for HCG, I use it for two main reasons. The first is cosmetic - the wife likes the way they look when I take HCG and dislikes the way they look without it and that directly affects how much sex I have. The second is that it makes me feel better physically / mentally. I feel happier when I take HCG than when I was not taking it. It is super cheap, so why not take it. It also increased by Test and E2 levels, so there is that to think about.

 

[Mprtz]

Why do you think you are secondary?

 

[Lanbro]

Good question.....I was told that based on my bloods

My prolactin is in range so it's not a benign pituitary tumor.

 

[DucBase]

It looks like primary to me. In which case the HCG may not do much.

 

[Lanbro]

It looks like primary to me. In which case the HCG may not do much.

Can I ask why you think it's primary?

 

[Megatron28]

Low T coupled with low or normal LH/FSH is generally defined as Secondary Hypogonadism.

 

[DucBase]

Low T coupled with low or normal LH/FSH is generally defined as Secondary Hypogonadism.

My bad then, I guess I had that backwards. If you have normal LH/FSH and low T, would HCG do you any good?

Edit: I went back and re-read some on this. I see that the LH/FSH should be high with the low T due to the feedback and such. I think I get it now.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

My bad then, I guess I had that backwards. If you have normal LH/FSH and low T, would HCG do you any good?

Edit: I went back and re-read some on this. I see that the LH/FSH should be high with the low T due to the feedback and such. I think I get it now.

Normal LH / FSH and low T indicates the testicles aren't responding. So the issue is in the testes. hCG stimulates the testes.

Low LH / FSH and low T indicates the issue is in the brain (pituitary.) SERMs stimulate the brain.

 

[DucBase]

Normal LH / FSH and low T indicates the testicles aren't responding. So the issue is in the testes. hCG stimulates the testes.

Low LH / FSH and low T indicates the issue is in the brain (pituitary.) SERMs stimulate the brain.

Thats the assumption I had prior to this. I think what Mega is saying is that if T is low and LH/FSH is normal it can still be secondary as the LH/FSH should be high as the pituitary should be sending high levels out due to the feedback from the low T.