Blood test reports- is there any improvement?

Correct. Secondary is pituitary meaning a restart might help Addy.

If he was primary, his pituitary would be "yelling" at his testicles to make more test. You would see this "yelling" though above normal LH/FSH.

Low T with low or normal LH/FSH indicates that the pituitary is not sensing that it needs to tell the testicles to crank up test production.

There is also the third less talked about situation where it is a little of both. That gets trickier.
Thts a big point to note " PITUITARY YELLING =ABOVE NORMAL LH/FSH " until now I thot tht normal LH/FSH and low T = primary and low Lh/FSH with low T = secondary ! I hope it's secondary
 
I think Addy should try a restart (aka PCT). See if he can get his HPTA going again with the help of a good Endo. Too bad we don't know what his pre-cycle baseline levels were though.
I will try my best bro ! But the only thing I worry Abt is here it's hard to find an amazing endo , who wud listen to wat I have to say , n I knw they Dnt have much knowledge Abt restarting and all this ; and I m scared to get into wrong hands
 
I will try my best bro ! But the only thing I worry Abt is here it's hard to find an amazing endo , who wud listen to wat I have to say , n I knw they Dnt have much knowledge Abt restarting and all this ; and I m scared to get into wrong hands

Keep reading threads here and studies on PubMed so you can advocate for yourself and help guide your doctor to provide you with the best treatment. Your goal should be to know more about this than your doctor does.
 
yes... it looks that way.. but your diet could be affecting your test levels too.. if your diet isn't correctly balanced your test levels will be lower than they could be..

i do recommend you hop on clomid for 4 weeks.. it wouldn't hurt to try another restart... that and a diet healthy in the right things to promote testosterone production
ANOTHER restart ?? Bro I haven't attempted any restart earlier ! If I do it will b my first ! I don't eat too bad ! Though guidance never harms ! So once I meet an endo I will put up what he suggests and then may b v can work on a proper diet too :)
 
ANOTHER restart ?? Bro I haven't attempted any restart earlier ! If I do it will b my first ! I don't eat too bad ! Though guidance never harms ! So once I meet an endo I will put up what he suggests and then may b v can work on a proper diet too :)

sorry that was a autocorrect typo.. lol

sounds good.. talk to an endo. but make sure you are going to a good one..
 
UPDATE:- so guys as planned i met the endo today , i showed him my last 2 blood reports! i told him my history of my steroid use and told him tht i never did my pct's after any if my cycle ! so after seeing my reports he said he doesnt find anything too concerning in my report ! He said tht he is just concerned abt my FREE TEST , so he has asked me to get the free test and total test, e2 and prolactin tests done again through an american lab which he believes to be the most accurate ! i told u tht i have been feeling crap since a long time and tht i have problems with libido ,having ercetion problems with emotional issues also ! i also asked him wat if i start taking an AI for my high e2 to bring it down ! but he said no dont take anything at the moment and get the tests done again and then i will proceed further !! i asked him if my tests are not in a good range then wat so he said then he might put me on test and HCG toghter! i was also trying to discuss with him all the things tht i read here abt clomid ! i also asked him abt clomid restart but he dint seem to be interested in the idea ! i dont knw wat to do now ! though i wil get the tests done but i dont knw if he knows more abt AI's or clomid stuff!
 
Sounds like a good plan to get reliable blood work results and go from there.

i agree brother! but i dont knw the doctor was not too communicating ! i mean he dint say anything abt AI or Clomid ! and i told him tht i m feeling crap since few yrs now ! i also askd him wat he thinks abt my TT (387) he said its ok its not too good but its not too bad ! also when i asked him if i was primary hypogonadal or secondary he wasnt much responsive! i will get the tests done for sure but i dnt knw i m just worried if he might not be so helpful cos he is one of the top notch docs and hence vry expensive ! and why do u think he might give me test and hcg if my free test is low?
 
I am having a hard time following along. Please write more slowly. Use complete sentences. Use paragraph structure. Just like you are writing an essay in school. Try to make it easy for the reader to follow along. Slow down...

Technically, you are not hypogonadal. So that is why he may have paused when you asked him if you are primary or secondary.
 
I am having a hard time following along. Please write more slowly. Use complete sentences. Use paragraph structure. Just like you are writing an essay in school. Try to make it easy for the reader to follow along. Slow down...

Technically, you are not hypogonadal. So that is why he may have paused when you asked him if you are primary or secondary.

sorry bro will b more careful with the writing now!
i asked him what if my free test still comes low after the retest, then will u put me on trt?

so he answered no ,no lifelong test! he said if it comes out to be low then he might put me on some testosterone and hcg !

so what could be this combination of test and hcg for ?
 
sorry bro will b more careful with the writing now!
i asked him what if my free test still comes low after the retest, then will u put me on trt?

so he answered no ,no lifelong test! he said if it comes out to be low then he might put me on some testosterone and hcg !

so what could be this combination of test and hcg for ?

Test and HCG is a common TRT protocol. Lots of guys add HCG in to keep there testicles from shrinking and help maintain sperm count. In general, guys express a general sense of well being when HCG is added to their TRT protocol. This is covered in the TRT sticky threads. Give them a read again.
 
Test and HCG is a common TRT protocol. Lots of guys add HCG in to keep there testicles from shrinking and help maintain sperm count. In general, guys express a general sense of well being when HCG is added to their TRT protocol. This is covered in the TRT sticky threads. Give them a read again.

Ok bro will give them a read for sure ! Thnks ! It's hard to find some threads though !

Like i have been looking for austinite's restart protocols but couldn't find them !
 
Ok bro will give them a read for sure ! Thnks ! It's hard to find some threads though !

Like i have been looking for austinite's restart protocols but couldn't find them !

Just go in the TRT forum and they are right there at the top. Can't get much easier.

Find a post by Austinite, click on his name and then on the left you can click the button to see all the threads started by him. A little harder but still pretty easy.
 
Just go in the TRT forum and they are right there at the top. Can't get much easier.

Find a post by Austinite, click on his name and then on the left you can click the button to see all the threads started by him. A little harder but still pretty easy.

Thanks bro ! Will look and read ! Wanna thank u and all the other guys here for the help and support !
 
If your diet and life style are on point and this is the highest you can get your test, then it's your choice to get on trt. Test and hcg are great with some AI to keep it in check. If you don't drink, eat enough food and get enough sleep and this is the highest your test is going then you could try a clomid restart but those don't usually work from what i have read. Sounds like you found a decent doctor.
 
If your diet and life style are on point and this is the highest you can get your test, then it's your choice to get on trt. Test and hcg are great with some AI to keep it in check. If you don't drink, eat enough food and get enough sleep and this is the highest your test is going then you could try a clomid restart but those don't usually work from what i have read. Sounds like you found a decent doctor.

Bro my lifestyle and my diet are pretty healthy ! I haven't not been able to train to train for the past 10 months now (no upper body ) cos of a shoulder injury but I never gave up I did my leg workouts religiously ! I m eating healthy , of course not as strict as much as I was when I was training crazily !

I don't drink at all !! May b once in 3-4 months and tht too very limited ! The 2 things tht r not in order are :- SLEEP patterns , I get enough 7 hrs of sleep but I sleep very late at night like by 3am or 4am and the other thing is depression !! I m in a tough relationship so have been in a depressive state on and off since 3 -4 yrs !

ABOUT TRT , I m not sure , yes it sounds great to have great levels of test but also wud hav to inject it lifelong !! On the other hand I have felt like real crap over the past few yrs ! U can say I haven't had a good satisfying sex in all these yrs ! I get a lot of opportunities but the only thing tht stops me is my erection issues ! So of course I would want to be like others , having a good time! I m just really confused !! But of course I m really interested in knowing his plans regarding TEST n HCG !! Atleast it would be better than sitting like this! At least something will happen !

Thnx for the reply bro !! Keep shining !!
 
Drop anyone that detracts from your happiness. Get that relationship sorted out, you dont need that. Like i said, you can live with subpar testosterone or you can use the wonders of modern medicine to live life to the fullest. You already got over the hardest step which is finding a doctor or source for your prescription. Test, hcg and some very low dose AI will make for an excellent trt protocol once you dial in the optimal dosages for your own body. I say this all the time, but i'd rather live 60 awesome years than 120 shitty, half assed ones. Get on the trt and stay in touch with the community is my suggestion.




PS trt+tadalafil should have you back at 100% in the bedroom.
 
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Drop anyone that detracts from your happiness. Get that relationship sorted out, you dont need that. Like i said, you can live with subpar testosterone or you can use the wonders of modern medicine to live life to the fullest. You already got over the hardest step which is finding a doctor or source for your prescription. Test, hcg and some very low dose AI will make for an excellent trt protocol once you dial in the optimal dosages for your own body. I say this all the time, but i'd rather live 60 awesome years than 120 shitty, half assed ones. Get on the trt and stay in touch with the community is my suggestion.




PS trt+tadalafil should have you back at 100% in the bedroom.

Thnk u so much bro for kind words !! Now Thts wat I like Abt brotherhood , they always look after ur back no matter what , it just cheers you up to knw tht ppl are there to help you out! It really helps me a lot and gives me some good positive hope to live a good life!!

Will b getting my tests done first week of the next month and then visit the doc again and then will hit u up guys again !! I asked the doc tht if my free test comes out to b low then will u put me on TRT or test for the rest of my life ? He replied no no not for whole life , then he said tht I might put u on some test and hcg !!

Accept my gratitude all of you for helping always!
Blessings for everyone
 
Wow man, our situations are really similar only I'm about 10-11yrs older than you. Good luck on your treatment and I hope you get it all figured out.
 
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