Blown out knee. Advice needed.

josephblow

josephblow

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I've been out of commission for 17 days now and I am literally watching my body waste away. It sucks lost 12 pounds already. Before my injury was was doing great started on a 3 month cycle and a month in I blew my knee out doing another sport I love. It's hard to get around, cook for myself, and I have my knee almost imobilized. What can I do to stop wasting away while I'm healing? I'm trying to go to the gym to hit light reps and use a hand bike. This will be my 2nd day. Chicken and green beans for me for now. I'm also on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at 145 mg week.
 
Just keep eating and let your body recover man. You will get back to the level you once were a lot easier once you have recovered
 
jSalud said:
Recover and let muscle memory do its thing later. Last thig you want is to hurt yourself more.
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^This. Don't skimp on the physical therapy either, it's imperative that you get your mobility and flexibility back ASAP. I lost easily 25lbs of muscle and put on a ton of fat in my two year recovery period from several knee surgeries. The good news is that most of it will come back, but if you slack off like I did, it's a really hard road to get there. Tip: Learn to judge curb distance early; it's not as far as you think - and if you step too hard, that shit's a doozy!

My .02c :)
 
with all due respect, if you have lost 12 lbs in 17 days, then those probably werent quality gains to begin with or you have completely stopped eating. but coming from a guy who has had 3 back to back knee blow outs (me) i will say that you losing some muscle is the least of your worries as long as its not your legs atrophying and i will stress that point once more: as long as its not your legs shrinking and losing strength. you have to get into physical therapy mode not body builder mode. if i were you i would dedicate ALL your focus and concentration on PT... if you have immobilized your knee to the point u can barely walk around and do basic things and you havent had ACL reconstruction surgery yet, then you are going over board with too much immobilization. put a knee sleeve with some support on and start walking around, just dont do anything that makes it buckle such as pivoting (quick change in direction on the injured leg) using extreme caution walking down stairs because it will give way and you will fall down a flight. if you are 17 days out of surgery then yes you are right in immobilizing it that much and proceed with a little bit of weight bearing slowly. ACL rehab is the hardest shit i have had to go thru and ive done it once welll, once decently only to blow out the good knee in physical therapy. then the originally injured knee blew out again and to make a long story short, i was ( and still sort of am) dealing with very bad muscle atrophy to the quads and hammies and calves. i have been working at it and am half way out of hell . moral of the story do not half ass physical therapy. stick to the 9 month PT protocol and make a 100%comeback before returning to 500lb squats haha. oh and stay away from leg extentions. it is not a natural movement for the ACL and pretty much 90% of the stress focuses on the acl. while you probably wont blow it out by doing extentions, it may result in ligament laxity (stretches it) and you will be prone to blowing it out again.
 
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It's been 11 days since surgery. My MCL and ACL were cut in half. My maniscus was held on by a thread and I had two fractured bones. The doc said I had 7 other tears and if was the worst knee injury he had ever seen. The gear was fine it was AML. And I was cutting to begin but trying to eat with the pain meds and even get around is fucking hard. I need more calories and I may be able to do light upper body workouts but everything is damn near impossible with this shit. Makes ya really appreciate walking normal again.
 
You could work out on your knees, when my form sucks, I just get down on my knees and curl, or hell just break out the wheelchair, and do some hill climbing cardio.
 
You need to consider how you weight yourself. 12 lbs in just over 2 weeks is pretty unreal. If the only thing you look out for in your bodybuidling/gym-going is your body weight you haven't found the correct path yet. Is it possible that you weight your self in the gym after you have stuffed your self of food and liquid? That could count for up to 3 pounds on the day, then some 3 pounds more on saturation if you have lost some water by changing diet.

How ever it works out you have not lost 12 lbs of gains mate
 
I'm going to really try and focus on the positive and eat more and train upper body . Even though its 50 times harder now. My leg is straight and I can't bend it at all. So it's always in the way and and arm workout will have to be seated. I'm slowly trying to move stretch bend and get PT for my knee. Just want to keep a positive attitude and not watch my upper body flush down the drain. It's insane how quick my leg is shrinking when u can't use it. Anything is a challenge now. Packing my lunch this morning even was a bitch .
 
the Dragon said:
You need to consider how you weight yourself. 12 lbs in just over 2 weeks is pretty unreal. If the only thing you look out for in your bodybuidling/gym-going is your body weight you haven't found the correct path yet. Is it possible that you weight your self in the gym after you have stuffed your self of food and liquid? That could count for up to 3 pounds on the day, then some 3 pounds more on saturation if you have lost some water by changing diet.


How ever it works out you have not lost 12 lbs of gains mate
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I always weighed myself in the am. I know it's all 3 I lost. Water muscle and fat. But it's just discouraging. I don't want to keep going down the same path and loose even more.
 
balboa270 said:
17 days 12 lbs wow!!!! And in TRT?? WTF give more info cause this does not add up or your trolling
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TRT is test cyp at 145mg. I couldn't leave the couch for 5 days and had to piss in a bucket. The pain meds are fucking me up physically, but they are def needed. It's so hard to eat or move and if now one is around I can't get to the kitchen to eat , so I sleep away the pain. Not drinking enough water, not eating enough and pain meds are making me sick . Hell I've only showered twice so far moving is a damn miracle. 3 docs said it was the worst knee injury they had ever seen . I blew everything in it.
 
losing 17lbs in 12 days after being a month into your cycle (?)


"knee almost immobilized" man - the fucking doc would have had you wrapped up in an immobilizer from immediately after the injury straight through post op, all the way up til beginning your PT.. and then your PT would put the immobilizer back on as soon as your rehab session was over! ask me how i fucking know!!!!


so if I'm skeptical, its just because what your saying doesn't add up at all dude.

maybe its just the painkillers you're on?

man, if you really want some help start with filling in some info like balbao asked for..

what sport/injury caused the damage?

can you be more specific about the "2 fractured bones" ?

what bones?

what kind of fracture?

what specific procedures did you have done to repair the damage to your knee?

what procedures to repair the fractures?

what have the docs recommended for your PT?

what pain meds are you on?

are you taking them as prescribed?



ill tell you what i can from the info you've provided..

1. most importantly - you need to have your knee immobilized at all times, especially if your on heavy pain meds, to keep from putting any stresses on it that will jeopardize the healing process. the only time you should have it off is to bathe and do your PT


2. your docs have provided you with resources for the kind of stretching and strengthening exercises you should be attempting week by week - things you have to do on your own if you do not have a therapist. (have you been doing them?)

3. you need to do some research on the psychology of a life changing injury like this. you are going through something very similar to a grieving process. your mental attitude will 100% affect everything from the amount of time your healing process takes, to the total degree you are going to be able to recover.

4. get off the fucking pain meds as soon as possible. 90% of docs will write you for that shit way past the amount of time you need to be on them. docs love writing scripts for painkillers - it keeps you coming back and they can charge you for every visit. you will be dealing with some degree of depression/anxiety ( see number 3) and will be primed for an addiction problem. the dope is whats killing your appetite and digestion. its also sedating you and keeping you from being driven in training. be very careful man, opiates are no fucking joke.


5. go ahead and start a journal/log to map out your progress and your goals. it took me one whole year to come back from my ACL blow out. it CAN be done.. but it was one year of setting 1,000 short term goals, and being completely dedicated to knocking them all out one by one in reaching that final goal..

post your info, if you're for real ill share everything i experienced right down to how i met my wife ( the doctor who treated me)

Charlie B
 
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Sorry just dont want people think im trolling i hate trolls. It was 12 lbs in 17 days. I know its water muscle snd fat but i hate wasting away. Not eating.... Can't from the pain meds. Can't sleep from the pain. It's a loose loose situation. My ACL and MCL was torn in half. They used my patella. Graphed it and made new ones and stapled em in. Took them 4 tries to fix my maniscus. There were a shit ton of other tears that they fixed as well. My femur and tibia smashed into each other and crushes the tops. They had to put a titanium screw in each to build it back up. I think where they screwed in is where a lot of the pain is. As for meds they have me on Percocet 10/325, hydooxyzine Pam 25mg, and keto something. Keto was so toxic to my liver I could only be on for 5 days. It was for inflammation. They gave me something else now sample packs they had in the office. I'm taking as little pain med now because I have to go back to work. By Thursday ill be off completely, except the sample packs for inflammation. It's going to suck. I'm in a brace 24/7. Except when I shower. I can't take it off because I have no control over my knee and it will flop. 2 days ago I could finally flex my quad . It was barely flexed but it was something. I can't bend my knee past 10-15 dregrees. It's so tight it's painful. My PT starts on Friday so I'm hoping they can work with me with what I got. I can barely move my leg up an inch of the bed without the brace, patella area is painful. My new fitted brace is coming soon too . $1400 for that bs. Insurance is covering most but not all as usual. They also gave me an ice machine that I plug in and wrap around my leg and it pumps a cooled liquid around my leg, helps alot. My friend was the PA that helped with the surgery, she wrote I saw your wiener on my knee..... Awesome surprise.

Also I was running a cutting cycle . 750mg test and 360 tren ace a week.

Sorry to be a dick before I saw you also have an injury. Just looking for good advice to do while sitting down. Moving a 45 plate balanced on on leg sucks.

Again sorry for being a dick, I'm just watching myself waste away and I'm so angry that this set me back this far and it's going to be a while before I can get ahead.
 
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man thats some heavy shit to be dealing with..

im not here to dish out medical advice, you have doctors, all i can do is share about my experience and what worked for me..

the reality is this : the biggest factor for your healing time and recovery is going to be mental.

you have a big advantage being someone who has experience with being dedicated and training hard..

now turn that intensity and discipline towards healing yourself and rehabbing your knee bro.

th record you got playing over and over in your head right now is telling you all about the things you CANT do. change that tune right fucking now - there are too many things you CAN do to be stuck in a negative loop over this injury.

you don't have dick cancer - you can come back from this man


as far as training goes, ask your docs.. anything flat bench, seated, or inclined, should be fine and gtg

keep up with your calories, even if you start out eating dirty... just make sure that you don't sit around and NOT EAT

stick your rehab protocols, be as determined and disciplined about your lifestyle and training as you have eve been.. and things will improve man. once you find yourself in a groove and thinking positive again, operating in a positive loop- i promise you that eventually you will wonder how you ever let yourself feel so down and out. hang in there and keep us posted man, B
 
[QUOTE you don't have dick cancer - you can come back [/QUOTE]

That made me laugh. Thanks man ill keep a positive attitude. Ill train, eat, and PT the best I know how.
 
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