we started 16 weeks out. but remember, i always eat clean, i just always add in cheat meals. So i was never a fat pig like alot of guys in the offseason. Hell, i only lost a total of 12 lbs from start of prep to the show. And I always stayed less than 12%. Still do now that I'm back from being a slack ass. lol
As far as maintenance and all that, we didn't really work that way. I always ate to get big. Never counted cals. Still don't. My body doesn't really work that way. I look better full as opposed to ripped and emaciated. I don't have the physique to be 4% and look good. Hell, i ate carbs and alot of them about right up until showtime. Didn't start manipulating things until a few weeks out.
Cardio i didn't start until 8 weeks in. And it was at the most 5 days a week. 45mins in the AM and 30 after i trained. Again, if you can't get really lean thru diet alone something is wrong. Cardio is just a tool.
Sorry for the thread hijack OP.