bshank's TRT Log and Journal
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Alpin
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If it works you should start feeling something the first 3 weeks. 8 weeks out you run labs on it.
350 I.u 3 times a week is a good starting dose....
You could go up to 500 I.u 3 times a week.
Again this is stuff a knowledgeable TRT doc tries out or discusses with their patient before bring out the big guns (TRT). Theres also clomid that could raise your T to 700 or beyond. ...
Cool. I'll make a decision on what I am going to do and update this thread. It will most likely either be keep going as is until I talk to my doc or I will just quit doing test on my own and keep my current HCG dosage and see how that pans out. I'm in for the results... not the treatment so HCG mono would be fine for me if it works. Thanks again.
Alpin
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200 mg a week is a pretty high dose for a beginner on TRT. E7D's as well plus HCG...
You are gonna raise estradiol too.
Careful with that adex stuff....its strong and can knock down your estradiol lower than you might think.
If I were you I would split up my shots 50 mg twice a week and assess before all this a.I. stuff.
Takes time for estradiol to elevate before one can safely use an a.I on their TRT protocol.
You know how many guys have crashed their edtradiol by hoping on that stuff while beginning their treatment
Myself included.
You are gonna raise estradiol too.
Careful with that adex stuff....its strong and can knock down your estradiol lower than you might think.
If I were you I would split up my shots 50 mg twice a week and assess before all this a.I. stuff.
Takes time for estradiol to elevate before one can safely use an a.I on their TRT protocol.
You know how many guys have crashed their edtradiol by hoping on that stuff while beginning their treatment
Myself included.
Madhaya
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SHANK <> I'm 26 days in on an identical protocol, myself, and interested in following your study. Honestly, I had never even thought of logging here.
Good luck.
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APOLLON <> Low E2 symptoms would be lethargy & sore joints? Also, is there any benefit to riding the upper end of the range?
In regards to your "HRT is a life long commitment" statement. I'm aware HRT shuts down said axis, but are you of the opinion that that once engaged in HRT, a PCT can not be employed to reestablish it?
Good luck.
NOVA <> Your Brain on Porn is a documentary?
APOLLON <> Low E2 symptoms would be lethargy & sore joints? Also, is there any benefit to riding the upper end of the range?
In regards to your "HRT is a life long commitment" statement. I'm aware HRT shuts down said axis, but are you of the opinion that that once engaged in HRT, a PCT can not be employed to reestablish it?
Alpin
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Depends on a lot of factors and variables. Depends if your balls are able to produce T from LH stimulation. Some guys use HCG throughout TRT and can pull themselves off every 2 years and run a restart. I've seen guys hit 900 TT plus while restarting.
Spunkey71
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I think it is dependent on the individual, everyone is different. My Low T is the result of head trauma that has damaged my Pituitary, so my issue is not a matter of the testes not functioning, more a matter of the signals not reaching the testes. I was told by my doctor that a restart would not work in my case.
Alpin
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How high was your LH/FSH/Prolactin?
Was there an ultrasound performed on your balls?
Spunkey71
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Sadly I do not have a copy of my original blood work but I have had an ultrasound of my testes as well as a MRI of my Pituitary. My doctor would not treat me unless I had the MRI because my TT was so low, wanted to rule out a tumor.
Alpin
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What did the ultrasound on your balls reveal?
Unfortunately I don't take docs at their word. One doc told me my Test was crap and I was 663 ng/dl TT!
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methos0123
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I've been doing good at high normal to slightly increased E2. I would just try to stay in the normal range, somewhere in there. Don't fret about hitting a certain number though.
Madhaya
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METHOS <> Thank you for chiming in, and apologies to the OP if you consider this a hijack. I am continuing because these tangents are all pertinent to your log... IMO. A Mod will obviously split this off into it's own thread if necessary.
I am not so much fretting, but curious as to what I might expect to experience on the low side as my doc just blasted me with 2mg a week of strozole for 200mg. 1x weekly of T. I hear all these E2 crash horror stories, and how since it takes time to aromatize, starting AI right off the bat is suspect... especially @2mg a week.
Furthermore, I was curious as to if riding the high range of E2 had anabolic or other benefits.
I am not so much fretting, but curious as to what I might expect to experience on the low side as my doc just blasted me with 2mg a week of strozole for 200mg. 1x weekly of T. I hear all these E2 crash horror stories, and how since it takes time to aromatize, starting AI right off the bat is suspect... especially @2mg a week.
Furthermore, I was curious as to if riding the high range of E2 had anabolic or other benefits.
methos0123
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Well, when I tried arimidex for the first and only time at .25mg, I had symptoms of extremely high anxiety, insomnia, dick was dead...dead for about 3-5 days.
Suffice it to say that I am trying everything I can to stay away from that drug. I just adjusted my dose, and I don't need it thank goodness.
2mg is a shit pot full! I wouldn't take that much, especially with no test to warrant it.
Suffice it to say that I am trying everything I can to stay away from that drug. I just adjusted my dose, and I don't need it thank goodness.
2mg is a shit pot full! I wouldn't take that much, especially with no test to warrant it.
Madhaya
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I just got my coupon from PrivateMed and intend on getting the female blood panel tested in around two more troughs due to some time out-of-town I have scheduled next week/weekend. That should be ~37 days in. I'm extremely interested in seeing where my levels are as this is totally uncharted territory for me. Then I reckon I should donate blood to get a look at my hematocrit levels.
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methos0123
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hematocrit will be on the female panel CBC. No need to donate just to see what your hct is.
Spunkey71
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The only thing they found out of the ordinary was that I had a BB size cist on one of my testes but said it was nothing to be concerned with and was very common. I understand that you don't like or trust doctors but I believe there is a difference between the care found in Canada and the care available in the US. In my 42 years I have never seen a doctor that did not care or just went through the motions where you seem to find that with every doctor you have seen. I am not sure why that is, maybe that is what happens after doctors are forced into a socialized medical system.
Alpin
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Does that ultrasound have capability in seeing if leydig cells are healthy and plentiful?