Bulk Cycle, need Pro advice

SlimDawg

SlimDawg

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Hey Pros,

I am planning my next cycle, and thought I'd run it by you guys and see if I need some tweaking. I am not sure if I should run it for 12 weeks or 18...600mg/week or 500?

Stats:
Age: 35
Weight: 190 lbs (My historical weight is 175lbs, was up to 205 at one point during cycles)
Height: 6'2
BF: 15%

I've done 3 cycles so far. First one was just Test E to see how my body would react.
Second and third were both cutting cycles. Responded well to all, minimal sides, with the exception of some hair loss.
Ran my blood a few weeks ago, all good and normal, so now it's time for a bulk.

The Cycle:
Test E - 600mg/week - 12 weeks (2pin/week)
Deca - 600mg/week - 12 weeks (2pin/week)
HCG - 500IU/week - 12 weeks
Aromasin - 12.5mg/eod
Finasteride - 5mg ED - for all cycle and PCT + another month.

1 WEEK BREAK

Start PCT:
Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20
 
SlimDawg said:
Hey Pros,

I am planning my next cycle, and thought I'd run it by you guys and see if I need some tweaking. I am not sure if I should run it for 12 weeks or 18...600mg/week or 500?

Stats:
Age: 35
Weight: 190 lbs (My historical weight is 175lbs, was up to 205 at one point during cycles)
Height: 6'2
BF: 15%

I've done 3 cycles so far. First one was just Test E to see how my body would react.
Second and third were both cutting cycles. Responded well to all, minimal sides, with the exception of some hair loss.
Ran my blood a few weeks ago, all good and normal, so now it's time for a bulk.

The Cycle:
Test E - 600mg/week - 12 weeks (2pin/week)
Deca - 600mg/week - 12 weeks (2pin/week)
HCG - 500IU/week - 12 weeks
Aromasin - 12.5mg/eod
Finasteride - 5mg ED - for all cycle and PCT + another month.

1 WEEK BREAK

Start PCT:
Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20
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Looks ok to me buddy, a simple and well thought out 4th cycle.

You obviously realize though that the success rate of this cycle will be dependant on nutrition not just AAS?

You also need to leave it for 3 weeks before starting PCT with the enanthate ester.

Good luck
BigBen
 
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bigben66 said:
Looks ok to me buddy, a simple and well thought out 4th cycle.

You obviously realize though that the success rate of this cycle will be dependant on nutrition not just AAS?

You also need to leave it for 3 weeks before starting PCT with the enanthate ester.

Good luck
BigBen
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thats what im talking about.. ben to the point!!!

also, i would run your test to 14 weeks and keep deca at 12 (technically, you should be running deca longer.. but this is acceptable)

deca is a very long ester.. it will take about 4 weeks to clear.. so wait 2 weeks after your last test injection and go into pct

run hcg till the day of pct
 
3J said:
thats what im talking about.. ben to the point!!!

also, i would run your test to 14 weeks and keep deca at 12 (technically, you should be running deca longer.. but this is acceptable)

deca is a very long ester.. it will take about 4 weeks to clear.. so wait 2 weeks after your last test injection and go into pct

run hcg till the day of pct
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Damn, I missed the longer Deca ester.... doh!
I blame this low carb diet you've got me on! ;)
 
SlimDawg said:
Hey Pros,

I am planning my next cycle, and thought I'd run it by you guys and see if I need some tweaking. I am not sure if I should run it for 12 weeks or 18...600mg/week or 500?

Stats:
Age: 35
Weight: 190 lbs (My historical weight is 175lbs, was up to 205 at one point during cycles)
Height: 6'2
BF: 15%

I've done 3 cycles so far. First one was just Test E to see how my body would react.
Second and third were both cutting cycles. Responded well to all, minimal sides, with the exception of some hair loss.
Ran my blood a few weeks ago, all good and normal, so now it's time for a bulk.

The Cycle:
Test E - 600mg/week - 12 weeks (2pin/week)
Deca - 600mg/week - 12 weeks (2pin/week)
HCG - 500IU/week - 12 weeks
Aromasin - 12.5mg/eod
Finasteride - 5mg ED - for all cycle and PCT + another month.

1 WEEK BREAK

Start PCT:
Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20
Click to expand...


masin 25mg ed
and test to 14 or 16 weeks (atleast a couple weeks past the deca)
 
OK so I should increase the time on Test E and Deca, and the Aromasin ED 12.5?

Test E - 16 weeks
Deca - 14 Weeks
Aromasin every day 12.5 until last PIN.

is this the consensus?
 
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That's a good start. Keep in mind you might have to adjust your ai dosage. Deca will aromatize to some degree so 25mgs of Aromasin isnt unheard of.
 
SlimDawg said:
Hey Pros,

I am planning my next cycle, and thought I'd run it by you guys and see if I need some tweaking. I am not sure if I should run it for 12 weeks or 18...600mg/week or 500?

Stats:
Age: 35
Weight: 190 lbs (My historical weight is 175lbs, was up to 205 at one point during cycles)
Height: 6'2
BF: 15%

I've done 3 cycles so far. First one was just Test E to see how my body would react.
Second and third were both cutting cycles. Responded well to all, minimal sides, with the exception of some hair loss.
Ran my blood a few weeks ago, all good and normal, so now it's time for a bulk.

The Cycle:
Test E - 600mg/week - 12 weeks (2pin/week)
Deca - 600mg/week - 12 weeks (2pin/week)
HCG - 500IU/week - 12 weeks
Aromasin - 12.5mg/eod
Finasteride - 5mg ED - for all cycle and PCT + another month.

1 WEEK BREAK

Start PCT:
Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20
Click to expand...

wait 3 weeks after your last pin before starting PCT
 
tbonexl said:
That's a good start. Keep in mind you might have to adjust your ai dosage. Deca will aromatize to some degree so 25mgs of Aromasin isnt unheard of.
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This question may sound dumb, but how would I know if I need to adjust the dosage? Would it be based on potential symptoms such as sore nipples?

Also someone suggested I have Prami on hand, why?
 
key things to look up:

deca = 19nor
prami = dopamine agonist (DA)

once you know what those terms mean, you should know why you need to use them
 
Onk said:
key things to look up:

deca = 19nor
prami = dopamine agonist (DA)

once you know what those terms mean, you should know why you need to use them
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OK, I've done some reading on this. and It seems as though Prami is something you're suggesting to keep on hand 'just in case'?

From what I understand, 19Nor steroids can cause high prolactin levels but only or mostly with the presence of excess estrogen, so in theory if I am controlling my Estrogen levels with an AI such as Aromasin there should be no need to use prami...??
 
In theory, yes. Key is to make sure you are using the correct dose of ai which bloodwork will confirm. That might not be nailed the first time that's why caber or prami is recommended to have on hand.
 
I adjusted the cycle based on the feedback I've received. Thank you all.
Here is what it looks like and let me know what ya'll think.

Bloodwork will be done before cycle, Mid and after cycle.

Test E - 600mg/week - 16 weeks (2pin/week)
Deca - 600mg/week - 14 weeks (2pin/week)
HCG - 500IU/week - 18 weeks (up to PCT)
Aromasin - 12.5mg/ed - 18 weeks (up to PCT) - possibly adjusted pending mid cycle bloodwork.
Prami on hand in case needed after mid cycle bloodwork.
Finasteride - 5mg ED - for all cycle and PCT + another month.


2 WEEK BREAK

Start PCT:
Clomid - 50/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20
 
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