Calves not Developing....

Miss Muscle

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I work each bodypart once a week but legs sometimes twice. My calves are not coming in like I want. Should I increase to 3? I currently do sitting and standing calf raises.

What else can I do? They are going to be disproportional for my competition!!!

This guy suggested I walk on my tippy-toes for 10 minutes each day. Whaddya think?
 
don't know about the tippy toe thing. I always work them once a week but i go heavy. i don't think more than twice a week would do any good imo but everyone responds different. Like i said , i go heavy , heavy enough where it feels like i can't lift my heals up. make sure you get a good stretch up top of the movement and work thru the burn. this works for me but maybe not everyone. just got to experiment and see what works best for you.
 
BIGFOOD said:
don't know about the tippy toe thing. I always work them once a week but i go heavy. i don't think more than twice a week would do any good imo but everyone responds different. Like i said , i go heavy , heavy enough where it feels like i can't lift my heals up. make sure you get a good stretch up top of the movement and work thru the burn. this works for me but maybe not everyone. just got to experiment and see what works best for you.

I haven't been going to failure. Maybe I should.
 
pick 3 calf exercises and rotate them.

Do only 1 set in this fashion.

5 second slow negative, then sit in the stretched position for 15 seconds then come back up and that is one rep---do twelve.

This is Dante's (doggcrapps) style of calf training.
 
I find training calves much like training back. You really have you use you mind to "focus" and really feel the muscle. Go slow and pause at the top for 1-2 seconds and really squeeze them. Calves must be trained heavy and hard because they have gotten used to a lot of abuse over the years and can take quite a lot. Just keep the form.
 
mister69 said:
pick 3 calf exercises and rotate them.

Do only 1 set in this fashion.

5 second slow negative, then sit in the stretched position for 15 seconds then come back up and that is one rep---do twelve.

This is Dante's (doggcrapps) style of calf training.

I did this for a while, but as a result of my insanely high arches, it hurt my feet long before it worked my calves to failure.

So I switched it up and my calves grew more by this routine than ever before.

Same idea of the three exercises.
I used a 7-8 second negative and a 3 second stretch at the bottom. The stretch killed my arches, so I cut it back. I do three rest pause sets of it with enough weight that I try to get 18-20 reps total. When I finish that, I take a slightly longer rest and go for 20 straight reps without the negative and stretch. Just a controlled negative and explosive positive movement.

When finished, I stretched them since I did not get the stretch that Dante incorporates.

Just a variation for some to try that worked wonders for me.
 
Pick one exercise. Pick a weight that allows you to reach failure at about 20 reps. Now do 75 reps total.

After you hit failure at around 20 reps, rest no more the 7-10 seconds and jump right back on and grind out another 5 or so. Rest another 7-10 seconds and grind out around 3. Keep doing this until you hit 75 reps, every *minny* set to failure. You'll get to the point where you can only grind out a rep or two at a time.
 
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Yeah ihear ya swelling. MY calves are set extremly high and i have small ankles so i look completely retarted in shorts lol--not to mention my hugh ass lol

What you did is something similar that Steve\Justin harris do in their video.

I swear i seen some gurls w\mean calves lol.

Swellin said:
I did this for a while, but as a result of my insanely high arches, it hurt my feet long before it worked my calves to failure.

So I switched it up and my calves grew more by this routine than ever before.

Same idea of the three exercises.
I used a 7-8 second negative and a 3 second stretch at the bottom. The stretch killed my arches, so I cut it back. I do three rest pause sets of it with enough weight that I try to get 18-20 reps total. When I finish that, I take a slightly longer rest and go for 20 straight reps without the negative and stretch. Just a controlled negative and explosive positive movement.

When finished, I stretched them since I did not get the stretch that Dante incorporates.

Just a variation for some to try that worked wonders for me.
 
If you've been walking around on your calves your entire life, and they haven't grown yet, I believe it's best to shock them with heavy, heavy weight. Do not sacrifice form for weight however. I realize it seems a bit conflicting , but it can be done.

Most people who fail to develop their calves adequately fail to emphasize the stretch. They use short choppy movements which work more of their quads, back and hip flexors than anything else.

There are also general fitness activities which help promote calf development. Try running up steep hills or bicycling as part of your cardio workout. Both will work the calves significantly.
 
COOKED CALVES--IN UNDER 4 MINUTES by Nelson Montana

How are your calves? Mine suck. Actually, by normal people's standards, they're
pretty good. But by bodybuilding standards...well, let's just say that Dorian Yates
wouldn't be intimidated by a toe-to-toe comparison.
So if my calves are only "so so", what makes me qualified to write an article on
calve training? Doesn't it make more sense to hear from someone with
extraordinary calves? Ironically, anyone with outstanding calve development is
the last person to be giving advice on improving the lower leg. They're the ones
who have it easy -- the lucky few born with lots of fast twitch fibers in the lower
legs. That's because, more than any other muscle group, the size and shape of
one's calves is determined by heredity. People with a genetic disposition for
shapely muscular calves need only to walk and their calves will look good.
Bastards.
For the rest of us mere mortals, it's different. Like most bodybuilders, my calves
have always resisted growth--so much so that not too long ago they bore a
striking resemblance to a pair of pool cues. It was pitiful! I've had to battle for
every centimeter of growth but despite all the effort, nothing
seemed to help. I tried everything. Then it hit me. It was so simple. (As most
"discoveries" are.)
After years of trial and error, I finally found the secret to adding precious muscle
tissue onto those stubborn soleus.
HEEL UP--HEEL DOWN--WHAT ELSE?
Let's face it, the calves are pretty limited in the way they can be trained.
Everything is a toe raise of some sort. Add into the mix that they don't provide a
satisfying pump, as is the case when working the chest or arms. They just burn.
The key to killer calves isn't in the exercises, but in the method in which they're
employed.
There are two theories to calve training. Because the muscle group consists of
mostly slow twitch (red) muscle fibers, the potential for growth is limited. Slow
twitch muscles are designed for endurance, leaving the presumption that the
calves should be trained with high reps. The opposite school of thought is:
because the calves are used to performing thousands of reps each day (walking
and running) they need to be "shocked" with low reps and heavy weight. "Light"
work won't work since the thick ankle bone and Achilles tendon are capable of
withstanding tremendous pressure, therefore it stands to reason that working the
calves with a heavy load would be necessary. Both theories are valid. Both
theories are flawed.
GET IT OVER WITH!
It's been my experience that calves respond best when worked quickly. That
doesn't necessarily mean that the reps should be fast. Instead, the total reps
should be condensed into as little time as possible.
That's the key.

It may be hard to believe that any workout session that lasts for only a few
minutes can be very effective. Yet, in the case of calve training, it's not only
possible--it's preferable.
Here's how it's done.
Pick only one calve exercise. (I prefer the seated calve raise.) Your goal will be to
reach 75 reps.
Use a weight that you would normally choose for a twenty rep set.
Complete the 20 reps and continue until you can't do another rep.
Rest just long enough for the burning to subside (no longer than 10 seconds) and
continue with as many reps as possible, even if it's only 5 reps at a time.
Proceed in this fashion until you reach the target goal of 75.
That's it! Total time? Under 4 minutes. Granted, it's a very painful four minutes,
but four minutes nonetheless.
WARNING!
You may feel a tinge of guilt that the routine took so little time but you'll have a
different point of view the next day when your calves are aching like they've
never ached before! Do not be tempted to do more work! Wait and see. If you're
still able to walk, you either didn't go heavy enough or you allowed too much time
between "sets."
Once you're able to tolerate this routine, increase the number of reps to 100.
Once that becomes too easy, (which I wouldn't count on happening in the near
future) add more weight.
I found this routine to be, by far, the most effective method for packing some well
earned muscle onto the calves. Even the hardest gainer can add size and shape
to their lower leg as long as they can tolerate the torture required to "keep going"
and complete the work out in as short a duration as possible. But make no
mistake about it--when following this program it's going to feel as if someone is
pouring acid on your calves! (And who says calve training can't be fun?)
Now you don't have any excuses. Four minutes is nothing! But a great pair of
calves is a most envious "finished touch" to the complete physique. If this routine
worked for me, (stick leg Nellie) it can work for anyone. Give this four minute
workout a try for a month and see for yourself if it doesn't make a dramatic
difference in the size and shape of your calves.
Even if your calves aren't your best bodypart, there's no reason they can't look
good. All it takes is 4 minutes a week. And a high tolerance for pain.


Thanks to Nelson Montana
 
StoneColdNTO said:
COOKED CALVES--IN UNDER 4 MINUTES by Nelson Montana

How are your calves? Mine suck. Actually, by normal people's standards, they're
pretty good. But by bodybuilding standards...well, let's just say that Dorian Yates
wouldn't be intimidated by a toe-to-toe comparison.
So if my calves are only "so so", what makes me qualified to write an article on
calve training? Doesn't it make more sense to hear from someone with
extraordinary calves? Ironically, anyone with outstanding calve development is
the last person to be giving advice on improving the lower leg. They're the ones
who have it easy -- the lucky few born with lots of fast twitch fibers in the lower
legs. That's because, more than any other muscle group, the size and shape of
one's calves is determined by heredity. People with a genetic disposition for
shapely muscular calves need only to walk and their calves will look good.
Bastards.
For the rest of us mere mortals, it's different. Like most bodybuilders, my calves
have always resisted growth--so much so that not too long ago they bore a
striking resemblance to a pair of pool cues. It was pitiful! I've had to battle for
every centimeter of growth but despite all the effort, nothing
seemed to help. I tried everything. Then it hit me. It was so simple. (As most
"discoveries" are.)
After years of trial and error, I finally found the secret to adding precious muscle
tissue onto those stubborn soleus.
HEEL UP--HEEL DOWN--WHAT ELSE?
Let's face it, the calves are pretty limited in the way they can be trained.
Everything is a toe raise of some sort. Add into the mix that they don't provide a
satisfying pump, as is the case when working the chest or arms. They just burn.
The key to killer calves isn't in the exercises, but in the method in which they're
employed.
There are two theories to calve training. Because the muscle group consists of
mostly slow twitch (red) muscle fibers, the potential for growth is limited. Slow
twitch muscles are designed for endurance, leaving the presumption that the
calves should be trained with high reps. The opposite school of thought is:
because the calves are used to performing thousands of reps each day (walking
and running) they need to be "shocked" with low reps and heavy weight. "Light"
work won't work since the thick ankle bone and Achilles tendon are capable of
withstanding tremendous pressure, therefore it stands to reason that working the
calves with a heavy load would be necessary. Both theories are valid. Both
theories are flawed.
GET IT OVER WITH!
It's been my experience that calves respond best when worked quickly. That
doesn't necessarily mean that the reps should be fast. Instead, the total reps
should be condensed into as little time as possible.
That's the key.

It may be hard to believe that any workout session that lasts for only a few
minutes can be very effective. Yet, in the case of calve training, it's not only
possible--it's preferable.
Here's how it's done.
Pick only one calve exercise. (I prefer the seated calve raise.) Your goal will be to
reach 75 reps.
Use a weight that you would normally choose for a twenty rep set.
Complete the 20 reps and continue until you can't do another rep.
Rest just long enough for the burning to subside (no longer than 10 seconds) and
continue with as many reps as possible, even if it's only 5 reps at a time.
Proceed in this fashion until you reach the target goal of 75.
That's it! Total time? Under 4 minutes. Granted, it's a very painful four minutes,
but four minutes nonetheless.
WARNING!
You may feel a tinge of guilt that the routine took so little time but you'll have a
different point of view the next day when your calves are aching like they've
never ached before! Do not be tempted to do more work! Wait and see. If you're
still able to walk, you either didn't go heavy enough or you allowed too much time
between "sets."
Once you're able to tolerate this routine, increase the number of reps to 100.
Once that becomes too easy, (which I wouldn't count on happening in the near
future) add more weight.
I found this routine to be, by far, the most effective method for packing some well
earned muscle onto the calves. Even the hardest gainer can add size and shape
to their lower leg as long as they can tolerate the torture required to "keep going"
and complete the work out in as short a duration as possible. But make no
mistake about it--when following this program it's going to feel as if someone is
pouring acid on your calves! (And who says calve training can't be fun?)
Now you don't have any excuses. Four minutes is nothing! But a great pair of
calves is a most envious "finished touch" to the complete physique. If this routine
worked for me, (stick leg Nellie) it can work for anyone. Give this four minute
workout a try for a month and see for yourself if it doesn't make a dramatic
difference in the size and shape of your calves.
Even if your calves aren't your best bodypart, there's no reason they can't look
good. All it takes is 4 minutes a week. And a high tolerance for pain.


Thanks to Nelson Montana
So hes saying work them ONCE a week for FOUR minutes?!?!?!?!??
Call me a skeptic but........
 
I did that Nelson program once.

I fucked up my calves pretty bad that I couldn't walk for 2 days. I was confined to my bed.


I don't know what I did, but I never tried it again.

I use the DC calf routine now and love it.
 
Don't be afraid to go really heavy and do lower reps (8-10), the gastrocs have a lot of fast twitch fibers too. Many people get hung up on high reps for calves and hamstrings (I did) when both those muscle groups have a decent amount of fast twitch fibers (ever seen a sprinter's hams?).
 
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