Can anyone recommend a good recomp cycle for a first timer

[Dirkmcgirk]

I've been on TRT for about 3 years and never have gone on a real cycle. I did take 300mg while on a my first and only serious cut for 12 weeks (lost about 25lbs) and then reverted back to my 175-200mg of test cyp a week. I have rotator cuff surgery in January 2017 and want to take my body to another level while im doing PT and letting my shoulder heal. Im currently 235lbs about 14-15% bodyfat(4 of my 6 abdominals are visible, especially in the morning). Sermorelin is the only compound I have any real experience with and have enjoyed the benefits of it thus far.

So what are my next steps. I am not trying to step on stage in boardshorts or become a mass monster, just want to look like a better version of my current self. Little bigger, little leaner. Boxing is my sport of choice, but the docs says i'll be a several months away from that after the surgery. So while being bigger isn't necessarily conducive to boxing, because I don't do it professionally I don't mind taking a little bit of an endurance hit.

 

[49ER]

Anavar 100mg ed and test

 

[Dirkmcgirk]

Anavar 100mg ed and test

why anavar and how long would you run it?

keep test at 200mg per week?

 

[49ER]

why anavar and how long would you run it?

keep test at 200mg per week?

As long as you want lol well a reasonable amount of time. Well i assume since you dont have a real cycle under your belt i recommend something weak but effective. Tren is the best everybody knows that as far as test try 500mg as much as you feel good on i dont even feel i can utilize anything over 500 i notice nothing different

 

[Dirkmcgirk]

For the purposes of a recomp which would be better tren ace or 500mg of test?

Never done tren and never taken 500mg of test

 

[rich33584]

Im curious about this also.
I have been doing 200mg test c a week for a couple years. E2 is in check..
Dont mean to hijack this thread, but this is essentially what I was going to ask myself...

 

[49ER]

For the purposes of a recomp which would be better tren ace or 500mg of test?

Never done tren and never taken 500mg of test

Fucccccckkkkkk Test booster from GNC VS real test lol even 50mg eod will change your body real real nice 100mg eod way better. If you went with tren ace i recommend stay on TRT just so you understand the effects of tren

 

[alphabravo]

Don't run tren yet, 300mg is over the typical TRT but it's not a big blast.

49er makes a good point with the var, it's great for lean mass and you're already on TRT so you're always running a test base anyway. I would say bump the test up to 500mg/wk and add some anavar if you'd like.

 

[49ER]

Don't run tren yet, 300mg is over the typical TRT but it's not a big blast.

49er makes a good point with the var, it's great for lean mass and you're already on TRT so you're always running a test base anyway. I would say bump the test up to 500mg/wk and add some anavar if you'd like.

Ya man Var is underrated its very effective it wont add slabs of muscle but it does create a nice looking tight frame. I love Var stacked with winny even at my bf i get striations in my shoulders

 

[Dirkmcgirk]

Don't run tren yet, 300mg is over the typical TRT but it's not a big blast.

49er makes a good point with the var, it's great for lean mass and you're already on TRT so you're always running a test base anyway. I would say bump the test up to 500mg/wk and add some anavar if you'd like.

500mg of test a week huh. Christ! I'm a little nervous even thinking about that high of a dose. I guess I'd go from taking .25 of my AI twice a week to 1.00 to avoid sides associated with high E

 

[Gainjin260]

500mg of test a week huh. Christ! I'm a little nervous even thinking about that high of a dose. I guess I'd go from taking .25 of my AI twice a week to 1.00 to avoid sides associated with high E

More than likely .5mg 2x/wk or eod would suffice. Zero chance you'd need 2mg a week with that dose.

 

[alphabravo]

500mg of test a week huh. Christ! I'm a little nervous even thinking about that high of a dose. I guess I'd go from taking .25 of my AI twice a week to 1.00 to avoid sides associated with high E

Believe it or not you really won't notice many more sides versus your 300mg blast most likely, yes you would likely want to increase your AI and do some private labs to verify that dose is keeping your e2 in check.

Don't be scared of 500mg a week it's pretty much a basic beginner dosage, it's typically recommended as a first test cycle dosage. As long as your e2 is on point you won't bloat out or have terrible side effects.

Then you have the choice of something like var, masteron, or primo if you wanted to add a second compound and run the test lower. I don't see a need jumping to tren already, wouldn't hurt to save that one for another time.

 

[49ER]

500mg of test a week huh. Christ! I'm a little nervous even thinking about that high of a dose. I guess I'd go from taking .25 of my AI twice a week to 1.00 to avoid sides associated with high E

I doubt youll even notice test is really not a big deal as you go higher just more trouble controlling E2

 

[Dirkmcgirk]

why not keep test the same and run var, masteron or primo and avoid having to monitor my e2 like an aids patient?

 

[alphabravo]

Ya man Var is underrated its very effective it wont add slabs of muscle but it does create a nice looking tight frame. I love Var stacked with winny even at my bf i get striations in my shoulders

I agree, I don't use winny because I don't compete at any level so the stage appearance or strength boost isn't worth it for me.

However I feel like anavar does a great job at adding some lean muscle (obviously not tons) and increasing my strength, I also tighten up quite a bit like you're saying - even when BF is up.

I like to run it with my TRT dose for 6 weeks here and there, especially durations of summer after I cut.

 

[alphabravo]

why not keep test the same and run var, masteron or primo and avoid having to monitor my e2 like an aids patient?

I mentioned you can do that so did 49er, you can keep your TRT dose and add in another compound to do the work. Keep in mind anavar, primo and masteron are lean gains you wont gain a ton of weight, which I assume you don't want too anyway.

 

[tx045]

why not keep test the same and run var, masteron or primo and avoid having to monitor my e2 like an aids patient?

Get aids so you don't have to worry bout e2

 

[Roush]

I have rotator cuff surgery in January 2017 and want to take my body to another level while im doing PT and letting my shoulder heal..

your wanting to run your first real cycle and do a re-comp during a time you can't fully train with 100% intensity ??

that makes no sense. recomps are difficult and take a lot of well put together diet, training , and drug protocols . need to be 100% focused, not in the middle of rehabbing from surgery.


as far as AAS for recomp . I'd just stay at a TRT dose of Test and blast Var, Primo, Masteron, Tbol . things like that.

 

[Dirkmcgirk]

your wanting to run your first real cycle and do a re-comp during a time you can't fully train with 100% intensity ??

that makes no sense. recomps are difficult and take a lot of well put together diet, training , and drug protocols . need to be 100% focused, not in the middle of rehabbing from surgery.


as far as AAS for recomp . I'd just stay at a TRT dose of Test and blast Var, Primo, Masteron, Tbol . things like that.

I get your point, but obviously my legs will be fine so I can do plenty of cardio. Also, any stimulation will be better than no stimulation wouldn't you agree? Again, Im not trying to put on 25lbs of dry muscle. I just want to tighten the midsection up a bit and maybe add 5-10lbs of dry muscle. Roush you and 49er have been around this forum for a while now so I definitely respect you all's opinion regarding this matter.

 

[Roush]

I get your point, but obviously my legs will be fine so I can do plenty of cardio. Also, any stimulation will be better than no stimulation wouldn't you agree? Again, Im not trying to put on 25lbs of dry muscle. I just want to tighten the midsection up a bit and maybe add 5-10lbs of dry muscle. Roush you and 49er have been around this forum for a while now so I definitely respect you all's opinion regarding this matter.

Personally if that is your goal and you are going to be recovering from surgery , then I would change the idea to a 'cut' phase and not a 're-comp' phase. the reason again being that a true re-comp requires a lot of weight training with a lot of intensity and high volume, which will be very difficult recovering from surgery.

you could do an 'anabolic cut' , lean out and maintain plenty of muscle . for that type of goal I would definitely go with Primobolan at like 600+ mg per week , possibly with a Var kick start and just on a trt dose of test. Primo is clean and very 'anti -catabolic ' so while you lean out you'll maintain muscle very well and you can run it a long time without sides (at least i can) , 16 weeks+ .
this will get you leaned out, bring out the muscle you have , help build your legs up possibly with training , and cycling your diet from a surplus for some weeks and deficit for others.

^ in my opinion , thats more reasonable goal considering your situation with shoulder surgery , then a true re-comp