Can EXPIRED Nolvadex be used?

tsi1991awd

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I bought this Nolvadex (Fenobest) a few years ago to run when I was doing a Superdrol cycle. Ended up never using it. Still all sealed up and in the bottles/boxes. Expiration was Dec. 2008. Would they still be alright to use in 3 months, or should I just drop cash for new ones?
 
some ppl here might tell you their ok.. but IMO theres a good reason that medication comes with an expiration date.. as dirt cheap as tamox is why risk it?.. if theres anything at all wrong with them "which i doubt" wether its lack of potency or just plain bad,why take a chance?...
 
some ppl here might tell you their ok.. but IMO theres a good reason that medication comes with an expiration date.. as dirt cheap as tamox is why risk it?.. if theres anything at all wrong with them "which i doubt" wether its lack of potency or just plain bad,why take a chance?...

What does the expiration date signify? Have the "expired" medications really lost potency? Do they really expire on the expiry dates? "Expired," do they become harmful?

The "expiry date" or "expiration date" does not indicate a point when a medication loses potency and is no longer effective or becomes harmful. It is simply a date "required by law" generally set at two to three years after the '"manufacture date" of new medicines, usually embossed or printed on the original packaging. For prescriptions filled by the pharmacist, it is usually dated a year after being dispensed from the original container.

Drug companies admit there are no real data and that since some drugs expire earlier or faster than others, some manufacturers make a calculated guess at shelf life, then cut that in half to avoid legal consequences.

Studies have been done to test the stability of drugs beyond the expiration date. Stored under reasonable conditions, many drugs retain 90% of their potency for at least five years after the label's expiration date; sometimes, longer.

The FDA studied more than 100 drugs. It found that 90 percent of both prescription and over-the-counter medicines were perfectly good to use even 15 years (!) after the expiration date.

The exceptions are insulin, liquid antibiotics and nitroglycerin.

And loss of potency does not translate to harmfulness. Other than a contested report associated with use of degraded tetracycline causing Fanconi's syndrome, there are virtually no reports of toxicity from outdated drugs. At most, they lose some potency.

Storing the medications in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help extend potency for many years. However, most impoverished Third World countries do not have the luxury of refrigeration or cool storage places, and stability studies need to be done for drugs in the environ of prolonged heat and humidity.

Is the expiry date a mere marketing ploy? A commercial ploy that tags obsolesence to still potent drugs? Easy math. . . billions of drugs are regularly trashed and dumped because of expiration dates. Worldwide, the amount is staggering. Manufacturers claim for "product integrity." Consumers cry "profit!"

And for sure, the dilemma of expiry dates will continue to be cause for concern. How long ago did it "expire?" How much have time, heat and humidity contributed to a decline in potency? In many impoverished settings of third world countries, patients don't have much of a choice. And when an "expired" drug works, it might have done so through its persisting potency, or through the powers of placebo or through a dose of tincture of time.

Some physicians feel comfortable doubling the time of use, from manufacture to expiration date.

In impoverished areas, where the choice is to treat wtih "expired" medications or NO treatment, the choice is a 'no-brainer.'

But if there is a choice, where potency is further brought to question because of weather and storage and cost not a problem, there are certain conditions where 100% absolute certainty of potency is preferable - for heart conditions, strokes, TIAs, and life-threatening infections. Aspirin potency may not be as important for the simple ache or headache as it would be in a TIA, stroke prevention or heart conditions. Antibiotic potency might not be as critical in the empiric treatment for suspected sinus infections as they might be for respiratory infections in the elderly and lung-compromised patients.

So, when the urgency of clinical situation dictates, or when the conditions of storage are of concern, together with length of time beyond expiry date - until technology can gadget up some time-and-cost-effective way of determining drug potency - for both over-the-counter and prescription pharmaceuticals, opt for the new bottle or the new prescription.
 
Expired Medicine Can Be Dangerous, so Why Use or Keep Them?
Medications are safe until their expiration date. After this time, they can deteriorate and do not work or can be harmful. Medicine (over-the-counter and prescribed) can become poisonous when it ages and result in death. If not stored properly, medications can expire before the expiration date. When air, humidity, heat, or sunlight makes contact with medications, they can be altered regardless of expiration date.Proper StorageWhen choosing storage areas remember the conditions that can change medications and store them in cool, dry, and dark places. It is idea to have the temperature be between 59 and 80 degrees. This does not describe the bathroom shelves or kitchen cupboards. In fact, those places are thought to be the last areas to store your medication. Those locations can have heat, humidity, and sunlight. Medications will decompose and lose potency under such conditions. The refrigerator, hall closet, or dresser drawer, are recommended as safe storage areas. Make sure to place medications where children cannot find them. It is a good idea to lock them in a cabinet to prevent child access. Expired medicine is a leading cause of accidental poisoning in children.DisposalExpired medicine should be properly disposed of without letting children and pets locate it. It is customary for medications to be flushed down a drain or toilet, but this can contaminate groundwater supplies. Throwing expired medicine in a garbage can (even after taping and double bagging) be harmful to soil. Alternative methods of medicine disposal include giving them to pharmacies or a hazardous waste collection program.Medicine storage areas need to be cleaned out every six months to a year. Dispose of anything past its expiration date, leaking, or damaged. It is helpful to date all over-the-counter and prescription medications when you buy them if they do not have a printed expiration date. Always keep your medicine in its original container as this was meant to keep it safe and this will make it easier to know if medicine has expired.Expired medicine consists of both over-the-counter and medicine that has been prescribed by a doctor. This includes birth control pills, condoms and other contraceptives, fever reducers and pain relievers, hydrocortisone, antacids, allergy medicines, antibiotic and antiseptic ointments, cough, cold, and flu medicines, plus sleeping aids. You need to clean out everything in your storage area.
 
we can go back and forth all nite on this.. theres tons of articles online that favor both arguments.. i see your point and im sure it holds some water.. but my point is for 25$ why not go get 100brand new ones? and if you want to tell this guy to take medicine thats been expired over 2yrs, thats on you..
 
we can go back and forth all nite on this.. theres tons of articles online that favor both arguments.. i see your point and im sure it holds some water.. but my point is for 25$ why not go get 100brand new ones? and if you want to tell this guy to take medicine thats been expired over 2yrs, thats on you..

Hi,

been browsing this forum for awhile now getting some good information and I was wondering where I can get some nolva

where can I get some for $25???

Thanks.
 
some ppl here might tell you their ok.. but IMO theres a good reason that medication comes with an expiration date.. as dirt cheap as tamox is why risk it?.. if theres anything at all wrong with them "which i doubt" wether its lack of potency or just plain bad,why take a chance?...

It is for a reason, so that dummies can throw it away and spend more money on a doctors appointment.

Meds properly stored will last years. I had Vicodin from 7 years ago, still as good as new.
 
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