Can you develop gyno from prolactin?

ImAuNatural

ImAuNatural

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Been taking my AI along with a SERM and I still have gyno developing. It used to only be my left nipple to give me issues but now my right one is just as bad they both hurt like hell and there are lumps. Please help.

I'm running test @500/week and Deca @500/week. Do I need to get Caber or Prami?
 
Did you get blood work to see if your dosing your ai properly? You might not be using enough. Can't say really without blood work...
 
High E2, is gonna lead to estrogen based gyno, prolcatin is gonna lead to lactating nipples or prolactin based gyno (puffy sore nipples) .

In your case it could be both. what's your AI protocol? Prami should have been on hand from day one when planning on using Deca. Blood tests would confirm wither its high e2 or high prolcatin, or both. Raloxifen is best, from what I hear, in regards to treating gyno (I've never once had an issue personally though)
 
AI Protocol is 20mg of Aromasin EOD
20mg of Nolvadex ED.

When I was running my last cycle of just Test @ 500/week I ran my AI at .5mg of Arimidex EOD and I was fine.
 
whats your body fat percentage?

personally, If ADEX at .5 mg EOD was doing the trick last time, I would not have switched to 20mg of Aromasin EOD.. 12.5 mg of Aromasin daily at least, as Aromasin has a much shorter half life then Arimidex... so basically you are now taking half the AI as you were in your last cycle because Aromsian half life is 24 hours compared to Adex 50 hours.

any other signs of high estrogen or water retention..
 
Aromasin needs should be dosed ED. Like tbone and roush said without bloodwork your guessing what's causing it. Just adding prami or caber without knowing if you have high prolactin is again guessing. I would up my dosage of ai to ED and get bloodwork female panel and add prolactin to see where you'd at labmds for regular essay on e2 they use quest in my area. If you use labcorp you can get a false high E2 from the deca because of how they do their test. If you can't get a regular essay through quest then you'll have to pay more for the sensitive essay it's not affected by deca or tren.
 
Roush said:
whats your body fat percentage?

personally, If ADEX at .5 mg EOD was doing the trick last time, I would not have switched to 20mg of Aromasin EOD.. 12.5 mg of Aromasin daily at least, as Aromasin has a much shorter half life then Arimidex... so basically you are now taking half the AI as you were in your last cycle because Aromsian half life is 24 hours compared to Adex 50 hours.

any other signs of high estrogen or water retention..
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I completely forgot about he half life being 24 hours...I feel so dumb.

Actually i cant tell any other symptoms of high estrogen honestly, I have actually lost 12lbs the past few weeks due to stress and not eating hardly at all. It was mostly all water that I lost so i dont have very much water retention, my blood pressure is fine also.
 
hiram1st said:
Aromasin needs should be dosed ED. Like tbone and roush said without bloodwork your guessing what's causing it. Just adding prami or caber without knowing if you have high prolactin is again guessing. I would up my dosage of ai to ED and get bloodwork female panel and add prolactin to see where you'd at labmds for regular essay on e2 they use quest in my area. If you use labcorp you can get a false high E2 from the deca because of how they do their test. If you can't get a regular essay through quest then you'll have to pay more for the sensitive essay it's not affected by deca or tren.
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Okay thanks man. I know bloodwork will bring light to the situation but to be honest I really cant afford to get the test done right now as I just recently lost my job this past week. As soon as I get some extra money i will be getting bloods done, although my cycle is almost over.
 
ImAuNatural said:
I completely forgot about he half life being 24 hours...I feel so dumb.

Actually i cant tell any other symptoms of high estrogen honestly, I have actually lost 12lbs the past few weeks due to stress and not eating hardly at all. It was mostly all water that I lost so i dont have very much water retention, my blood pressure is fine also.
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Well if your cycle is basically over and it's too late to modify your current AI.. which controls the conversion of estrogen in the first place,, you may need a more powerful anti E to run for a bit like Letro. also now it's time, imo, to concentrate on a proper SERM protocol and tackle the estrogen at the site. Raloxifene is probably your best bet.. again, I personally have no experience running anything for gyno issues though.
 
Roush said:
Well if your cycle is basically over and it's too late to modify your current AI.. which controls the conversion of estrogen in the first place,, you may need a more powerful anti E to run for a bit like Letro. also now it's time, imo, to concentrate on a proper SERM protocol and tackle the estrogen at the site. Raloxifene is probably your best bet.. again, I personally have no experience running anything for gyno issues though.
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Cycle has 4 weeks remaining but yes I will definitely be hitting it with Nolvadex and picking up some Ralox. Thanks for the help man.
 
ImAuNatural said:
I have actually lost 12lbs the past few weeks due to stress and not eating hardly at all.
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The food is more important than the gear man, you're flushing your hard earned cash down the toilet by cycling on a shit diet.

I don't care if it's stress or not, why run a cycle unless you can commit to an appropriate diet?
 
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