Can you take Aromasin EOD like Arimidex..

Steeleroid

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..when it comes to TRT?

Keep seeing .5mg of Adex every other day with a low dose of test, for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) purposes, but if one was to opt for Aromasin instead, how would they go proper protocol?

I'm on my first week 200mg of Test Cyp weekly, and have HCG, Nolvadex, and Aromasin on hand. Reason for starting testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) was due to elevated Estrogen and lowered Test.

Trying the 200mg of Test Cyp first to see if things balance out before throwing in an AI.

If it comes to the point where I'll need to add the Aromasin, can it be used EOD like Arimidex, or is it strictly an everyday drug, where 12.5 to 25mg is needed every day?
 
well take your time here. you may or may not even need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). personally i do and i prefer aromasin. eventually you'll be able to gauge how much you need but thats not guess work thats feeling backed by blood work then it will go to feeling. me personally i use 12.5mg e3d then e4d then e3d and so on. its pretty potent so you certainly shouldnt need even eod but everyone is different.
 
I can understand why it's commonly dosed daily due to the half life being 27 hours, but I thought Aromasin permanently kills off the aromatase, which means one could get away with every other day or 2nd/3rd day... for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) purposes at least. I can understand dosing it 25mg for 500mg of Test.
 
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This post is kind of long, but take the time to read it, it's probably the most important thing you'll ever read if you're a BB'er (haha well maybe not, but there's some gold in here)

Exemestane, sold under the name Aromasin® by Pfizer, is an orally available suicidal aromatase inhibitor. <This sentence describes exactly why exemestane is the king of anti-e's for bodybuilding purposes.

Because exemestane is steroidal this gives it a favorable estrogen suppression profile and confers a few really awesome benefits over other anti-estrogens both on paper and in real experience. Steroidal anti-estrogens have the benefit of being lipid-friendly and they all lower sex hormone binding globulin which increases the ratio of free to bound testosterone, which as many experienced BB'ers know can have a relatively profound positive impact on gains.

I think it is important to understand how drugs work in order to properly dose them, exemestane is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor, this means that it binds with aromatase enzymes and as it does so permanently disables the enzyme and destroys it. Hence the "suicidal" this chemical is like a kamikaze pilot out to destroy your aromatase enzymes which is what makes it so special.

Exemestane's half life in the male body is actually very short (~9 hours) and it is quickly eliminated, however, since as soon as it enters your bloodstream it quickly destroys 80-90% of the aromatase enzymes present in your body, it is effective in maintaining significant reductions in estrogen for up to 72 hours after a single 25mg dose. Estrogen levels only begin to rise again after your body has begun to make new aromatase enzymes to replace the ones destro by exemestane.

There is a great study on the pharmacokinetics of exemestane in men which found the following:
-24 hours after one 25mg dose estrogen levels are reduced by 70-80%
-72 hours later estrogen levels are still 40% below baseline even though the drug itself is almost completely eliminated
-120 hours after initial dose estrogen levels return to baseline (without rebounding)

this means that you can find the timing and dosage that works for you, i've seen some guys recommend between 25mg ed and 12.5mg e4d, and you can see why both are effective while providing different levels of estrogen suppression, and it is this flexibility that makes exemestane such a versatile anti-e.

BUT WAIT, there's more. Aromasin is also a badass post cycle therapy (pct) drug! In males exemestane was found to increase total testosterone by ~60% after 10 days @ 25mg/day, however the same study found that while it increased total testosterone by 60% free testosterone was increased by over 100 percent! that's right, it DOUBLES bio-available testosterone (natty of course).

I can tell you this much, when I take Aromasin for post cycle therapy (pct) the results are dramatic, honestly my libido is never absent at any point during post cycle therapy (pct) and I absolutely feel great within a matter of days, and this is taking 12.5mg ed, the only side effect i notice is stiff joints and other stiff areas

the good:
-powerful aromatase inhibitor capable of stopping gynecomastia completely on its own (for aromatizing compounds)
-has powerful bloat-reduction effects
-lowers sex hormone binding globulin , increasing free test & makes all other anabolic steroids more bio-available (read: more gains)
-can actually boost libido on and off cycle
-increases IGF-1
-NO adverse changes in lipid profiles for men (granted if you are using it on cycle this may be different)
-is NOT liver toxic
-no estrogen rebound

the bad:
-typical aromatase inhibitor issues here include stiff joints and possibly lethargy
-more difficult to come by than a-dex or letro

Appropriate uses for Exemestane:

#1) on cycle estrogen control - that's right, any and all estrogen related problems can and should be corrected with this compound, from gynecomastia to acne to bloat exemestane is a panacea, run it at 12.5mg e4d for gynecomastia protection and bloat control, or run it at 25mg ed for pre-contest or for gynecomastia sensitive individuals or moon face. the beauty of Aromasin is it's okay to use preventatively and not just as spot treatment for gynecomastia as it doesn't hurt gains nearly to the degree that other anti-e's do, i'd still recommend using anti-e's only if you need them, but if you must use one throughout your cycle, you couldn't pick a better compound to use.

#2) post cycle therapy (pct). Aromasin is the premier post cycle therapy (pct) drug in my experience... honestly post cycle therapy (pct) is kind of fun with Aromasin (maybe that's a stretch) but it's a breeze compared to Clomid/nolva and significantly better than a-dex (more powerful and fewer sides) it works excellently with hcg and keeps the extra aromatization from the hcg injects at bay (you can even run higher dosages of hcg above 500iu/inject) and another bonus is since it's safe and comfortable to run for longer periods of time, you can stretch your post cycle therapy (pct) out to 6 or 8 weeks for suppressive cycles to make sure you get everything back in full working order

#3) gynecomastia reversal - in conjunction with a selective estrogen receptor modulator (raloxifene or Tamoxifen) and/or a dihydrotestosterone derived compound Aromasin can be effective in reversing/reducing existing gynecomastia

#4) off cycle testosterone boost - sometimes if i dont feel like running a cycle but still want a little extra kick i'll take 25mg EOD for 4-6 weeks, gains aren't improved all that greatly but significantly, but i do it more for the libido/mental effects anyways.

#5) hypogonadism - so you're getting older, you've been cycling since you were 21 and your natty test levels just never get back in the good range, but you don't wanna go HRT??? Aromasin will get you back in the game without having to take the plunge for HRT.
 
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I personally use Aromasin to control estrogen at 12.5mg ED.Using less ED will help keep your hormones more stable . I tried using it EOD and found that by the end of the second day my nipples started to itch even at 25mg EOD.

EOD may work for you but it did not for me.
 
Aromasin Proceed Cautiously

Aromasin everyday is asking for a complete estrogen crash and libido shutdown. Its way too powerful to subject your body to 25 mgs ed or even 12.5 mgs ed for that matter. Estrogen is a bugger. It by far- is the toughest hormone to control and once out of control it - either too high or too low and your world can be turned upside down. The key is too start off with low doses and see how body reacts. You must be intuitive and be cognizant of your body's response. Taking 12.5 mgs eod is better approach. Remember estrogen is necessary for libido, promoting IGF-1, and gains. You must allow estrogen to balance everything off. Homeostasis is the key to any success in any cycle. Without it you will be in constant chaos.
 
Aromasin everyday is asking for a complete estrogen crash and libido shutdown. Its way too powerful to subject your body to 25 mgs ed or even 12.5 mgs ed for that matter. Estrogen is a bugger. It by far- is the toughest hormone to control and once out of control it - either too high or too low and your world can be turned upside down. The key is too start off with low doses and see how body reacts. You must be intuitive and be cognizant of your body's response. Taking 12.5 mgs eod is better approach. Remember estrogen is necessary for libido, promoting IGF-1, and gains. You must allow estrogen to balance everything off. Homeostasis is the key to any success in any cycle. Without it you will be in constant chaos.

actually you couldn't be more wrong with your post, not only is the bioavailability of exemestane so short it would be silly to do any other dosing protocol then ED..........it has also been shown in clinical studies to keep estrogen within normal range @ 25mg ED on male patients not taking any testosterone at all......................
 
Let your joints be the judge. If you start feeling the dull aching pain, your dose is too high unless you're trying blast some gyno. Keep it Simple Stupid. Oh BTW, sup Oak
 
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Exemestane is rapidly and extensively absorbed after
oral administration, although animal data suggest that
oral bioavailability might be incomplete due to first-
pass hepatic metabolism. Food enhances absorption,
resulting in plasma levels 40% higher than those
observed under fasting conditions. Exemestane is
extensively metabolised, viaoxidation (CYP3A4) and
reduction (aldoketoreductase), to form many secondary
metabolites, all of which are inactive or less active than
the parent compound. It has a terminal elimination half-
life of approximately 24 hours
[3]. Both moderate and
severe hepatic and renal impairment affect the
pharmacokinetics of exemestane, but dose adjustments
do not appear to be necessary [3].
 
Lets play nice. Letro is by far the superior compound. My personal experience it that letro continues to work of long term use. I can't say the same for Exemestane.
 
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What up MOUSE! Agree on the achey joint issue. Usually when my joint aches, it's cause I just got done making some hooker "Tap Out"... Lol... But Ur talking about achey jointS related to estrogen, I second that emotion! If you've never crashed ur estrogen, then ur lucky... U don't want to. Trust me, you can't help as many people as I have, unless you've fucked some shit up on urself over time!! Lol. How else am I gonna know what is GOOD for people, if I haven't experienced what is BAD on myself...
If you guys are running high amounts of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and are sweating Ur ass off when you TRY to sleep, have blurred vision, mood swings, feel like Ur fucking tendons are gonna snap, along with the achey joints... You better consider dialing down a bit!!
 
Aromasin

actually you couldn't be more wrong with your post, not only is the bioavailability of exemestane so short it would be silly to do any other dosing protocol then ED..........it has also been shown in clinical studies to keep estrogen within normal range @ 25mg ED on male patients not taking any testosterone at all......................

I understand the studies and believe me everybody is different. Aromasin being a suicide inhibitor kills aromatase. Its second strongest to Letrozole but still it packs a whallop. Having one's aromatase being completely shutdown certainly holds risks in the balance of proper amounts of estrogen in body. Granted the studies show that ideally 25 mgs ed is ideal but it all depends on the situation and the person. I should have clarified that in my last post. Nevertheless you are correct in pointing out the clinical studies to rebut my post. However, I have seen cases where someone takes aromasin - 25 mgs ed and they have bottomed out with estrogen and their libido was in the toilet. Just saying everyone is different. There is no exact science to dosing any AAS or ancillaries. We can only go by how our body reacts as a measuring stick.:wink2:
 
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Thanks Chip. Our Doctor and my partner has two fully staffed clinics in Boca and WPB and is A4M certified and has been providing HRT/TRT to hundreds of clients for many years. I just took his business national via Centurion. So while it is my first venture into the national scene, the clinic, pharmacy and doctor have been around for years providing HRT/TRT services.
 
Phew!!! That's a HUGE plus FLEVER.... a doc and a staffed clinic are definitely an integral piece of the business.

Welcome to the dance!!
 
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