Cant make gains..

[sswhiteboy]

what up everyone, i've been having problems making gains.Im 20 5ft10 and weigh 150. I am on my 3rd cycle. I am currently on a 10week cycle of test enanthate 250m a week. I work out 5 days a week for about 1hour n 1/2 each night.

MON...chest/tris/abs
TUES..back/bi/legs
WED...shoul/traps/abs
THUR..chest/tris/abs
FRI....back/b/legs

weekends i take off , or do a little cardio.I eat as much as i can and also take protein shakes(serious mass) and get plenty of sleep, but i just cannot gain any weight.I kinda had the same problem on my previous cycles. my last cycle i hardly made gains and i was taking 450m a week of test prop for atleast 12 weeks.

i know alot are gonna say im to young and what not, but i have already begain taking g ear about a year ago , so theres no point to stop now.

 

[dfresh333]

your shit is fake if you aren't making any gains off either one of those cycles.

 

[sswhiteboy]

i get my gear from a friend, and i.ve seen his before and after pics and see guys he sells shit to and you can tell that they are taking something, ive been thinking its fake but im taking the same as him and he does my injections so...idk. i keep thinking that im missing something or not doin it right, but everyone keeps saying im not.

 

[FerrariF50]

let's see your diet with the time throughout the day

 

[GotEmAll]

You are thin man really thin, and you said you have taken gear before and you are still 150lb at 5'10. Are you eating?

 

[sswhiteboy]

let's see your diet with the time throughout the day

i dont keep track of the time that i am eating , but i eat everything i can get my hands on.. pizza, chicken/fried chicken,pork chops/steak,cheese burgers, protein shakes/and evan ice cream..there is only so much somebody can eat, im not gonna eat till i puke..

 

[sswhiteboy]

You are thin man really thin, and you said you have taken gear before and you are still 150lb at 5'10. Are you eating?

ya this is my 3rd cycle, 1st cycle was half ass lost supplier, my 2nd was the best i got to 165 and took nolva as a post cycle therapy (pct) and still dropped to about 155, but i eat as much as i can, and i am always eating.i really dont know why i cant gain weight or anything.

 

[FerrariF50]

i dont keep track of the time that i am eating , but i eat everything i can get my hands on.. pizza, chicken/fried chicken,pork chops/steak,cheese burgers, protein shakes/and evan ice cream..there is only so much somebody can eat, im not gonna eat till i puke..

why don't you tell us what you think the problem is then?

 

[rocko419]

Ya I'm sure you eat..But you just don't eat enough. You can't be eating enough. #2 I wounder if your training correctly...You say you get enough sleep. OK. The only other reason you would not gain on gear is your stuff is fake...So take your pick bro. It's not rocket science. It can only be one of these reasons. Unless you have some kind of medical issue..Tell me your not on gear and you cant gain and I'll say I had the same issues when I was younger. But your doing cycles and you don't gain.....Like I said take your pick bro....Good luck though hang in there it will come sooner or latter..

 

[sswhiteboy]

why don't you tell us what you think the problem is then?

i really dont know man. i feel like im missing something like..i know step1 step2 dont know step 3 and 4 but know 5 and 6 , thats the only way i can explain lol..

 

[sswhiteboy]

Ya I'm sure you eat..But you just don't eat enough. You can't be eating enough. #2 I wounder if your training correctly...You say you get enough sleep. OK. The only other reason you would not gain on gear is your stuff is fake...So take your pick bro. It's not rocket science. It can only be one of these reasons. Unless you have some kind of medical issue..Tell me your not on gear and you cant gain and I'll say I had the same issues when I was younger. But your doing cycles and you don't gain.....Like I said take your pick bro....Good luck though hang in there it will come sooner or latter..

i can explain exactly how i train and what my daily routine is like.. lets say chest/tri day.. I'll wake up eat a bunch of scrammbled eggs, eat a couple ham sandwiches, couple hours go by,eat some baked chicken and whole thimg of mac n cheese, couple hours go by a couple more ham sandwiches,or tv dinner or something. hit the gym either incline or flat bench, 2 sets of ten warm up then 4 sets of heavy weight, then 5 sets of 15 rep dips (last 2 sets with weight hanging from legs) then bench with dumbbells heavy weight 4 to 5 sets 10 to 12 reps each, then do 4 sets of flys, 2 warm up sets, then 2 heavy weight sets, then another fly workout (try to burn out) then i completely burn out with pushups, then i move on to my tri workouts. come home protein shake right away then eat dinner and some vanilla ice cream , then get a good 10 hours of sleep lol. i do not do the same routines , i mix it up. Any advice, or you guys see any thing wrong here??

 

[gethugeagain]

Well with whats going on I would go back to basics and begin to eliminate things from there. First off I would change up you training and have more rest, just because your on gear doesn't mean you cant over train and working each body part twice per week for 1.5 hours at a time could be over training for a lot of people, especially if you didn't properly work you body up to that point.

Next is diet, It is very easy to think you getting more then you really are when not keeping track, especially when eating the wrong things. I personally think it takes a long time before you can eat without following and documenting your diet, and still do it correctly.

Sleep kinda speaks for its self, but again just because you get eight ours a night and your on juice doesn't mean your muscles are getting enough rest! You could very well be having this problem simply because your over training, with that said I would try something like I am going to post below and go from there after giving it a few weeks.

Workout;
Monday- legs
Tuesday- chest/tris
Wednesday- off
Thursday- back/bis
Friday-shoulders
Saturday-off
Sunday-off

Stick to compound basic movements and do three movements for large muscles and two for smaller muscles, four sets each movement (10/8/6/15). Stick with that and don't add anything in for at least the first four weeks. Drop the cardio for now as its just burning calories you probably need.

Diet, I would start keeping track of to make sure you getting what you need, instead of just thinking your getting it. At a minimum I would get 1.5g protein/lb, 3g carbs/lb, .5g fat/lb of body weight, that works out to be like 22.5 calories/lb. again that's a minimum requirement so workout on paper how to get that each day over at least six meals, then try each day to consume more then that, more then the previous day!

I think if you start with these steps you will be on your way to breaking this "plateau". Give it a try and let us know how its going a few weeks from now. One more thing, what kinda gear are you using, just because you get it from someone using good shit doesn't mean he is giving you the same shit, ya know! Good luck!

 

[estray]

Good lord, youre completely overtraining. Not only because you only take 2 days a week off(and you probably do cardio on those days) but from a volume standpoint. 20+ sets for chest and 2x a week on top of that??????? Your body has adapted to the load your giving it. so what are you gonna do, add another 5 sets a workout so your doing 50 sets a week? No, you need to lift heavier, and at a fraction of that volume.

At 150lbs youd be gaining easily with a better routine, even without steriods and even on that diet of fast food and pizza. I suspect your gear is bunk too because you shouldve at least put on a few lbs.


Look into DC style training. Its perfect for hardgainers.

 

[g1234]

man I hope your avatar and your nickname are not for real and that you're just being sarcastic, otherwise you missed the real message in that movie and in the last 63 years.

 

[sswhiteboy]

Well with whats going on I would go back to basics and begin to eliminate things from there. First off I would change up you training and have more rest, just because your on gear doesn't mean you cant over train and working each body part twice per week for 1.5 hours at a time could be over training for a lot of people, especially if you didn't properly work you body up to that point.

Next is diet, It is very easy to think you getting more then you really are when not keeping track, especially when eating the wrong things. I personally think it takes a long time before you can eat without following and documenting your diet, and still do it correctly.

Sleep kinda speaks for its self, but again just because you get eight ours a night and your on juice doesn't mean your muscles are getting enough rest! You could very well be having this problem simply because your over training, with that said I would try something like I am going to post below and go from there after giving it a few weeks.

Workout;
Monday- legs
Tuesday- chest/tris
Wednesday- off
Thursday- back/bis
Friday-shoulders
Saturday-off
Sunday-off

Stick to compound basic movements and do three movements for large muscles and two for smaller muscles, four sets each movement (10/8/6/15). Stick with that and don't add anything in for at least the first four weeks. Drop the cardio for now as its just burning calories you probably need.

Diet, I would start keeping track of to make sure you getting what you need, instead of just thinking your getting it. At a minimum I would get 1.5g protein/lb, 3g carbs/lb, .5g fat/lb of body weight, that works out to be like 22.5 calories/lb. again that's a minimum requirement so workout on paper how to get that each day over at least six meals, then try each day to consume more then that, more then the previous day!

I think if you start with these steps you will be on your way to breaking this "plateau". Give it a try and let us know how its going a few weeks from now. One more thing, what kinda gear are you using, just because you get it from someone using good shit doesn't mean he is giving you the same shit, ya know! Good luck!

thanxs man. i really appreciate you takin the time to leave me all the info, startin this monday ima start the routine you suggested and ima change my diet and keep track of what and how much im eating, and we'll see how it goes. the label on my bottle says AXIO LABS testaplex e250, they have a web site but you cant order from there.

 

[sswhiteboy]

Good lord, youre completely overtraining. Not only because you only take 2 days a week off(and you probably do cardio on those days) but from a volume standpoint. 20+ sets for chest and 2x a week on top of that??????? Your body has adapted to the load your giving it. so what are you gonna do, add another 5 sets a workout so your doing 50 sets a week? No, you need to lift heavier, and at a fraction of that volume.

At 150lbs youd be gaining easily with a better routine, even without steriods and even on that diet of fast food and pizza. I suspect your gear is bunk too because you shouldve at least put on a few lbs.


Look into DC style training. Its perfect for hardgainers.

ya thats exactly wut i would do to man lol add more sets, iwould try to hit everything twice a week and didint think once a week was enough. but ima try out this routine left for me on post... thanx for the feed back

 

[Nasdaq]

5'10 3 cycles and trains all week at 150 lbs?

this is a joke or you have aids

 

[sswhiteboy]

man I hope your avatar and your nickname are not for real and that you're just being sarcastic, otherwise you missed the real message in that movie and in the last 63 years.

hahah no man i understood the movie and its a very good movie, i just like the character he played . my great grandparents were GERMAN so that explains the nickname..

 

[sswhiteboy]

5'10 3 cycles and trains all week at 150 lbs?

this is a joke or you have aids

you serious TECHNO VIKING?? no this is no joke and thats exactly why i made this thread, but i think i got some helpfull info that i needed, so thanks for the post and im 100% sure i dont have AIDS

 

[estray]

ya thats exactly wut i would do to man lol add more sets, iwould try to hit everything twice a week and didint think once a week was enough. but ima try out this routine left for me on post... thanx for the feed back

That routine is ok, its not as good as DC but i still think you should read up on DC and apply its principles to any style lifting. DC allows you to do each bodypart 2x in 8 days but you only do 2-3 sets per bodypart each time. If your gonna go 1x per week then pick 2 exercises and do 3 heavy rest pause sets. Thats it. But 1x per week training is inferior to 2x per week as you only get half as many growth cycles in a given year. Most people screw up 2x a week training though with too much volume and therefore dont benefit like they should. Bottom line is if youre doing more than 6 heavy sets in a given week for any bodypart then youre overtraining in my opinion. Dont believe all the BS hype that you read in the magazines that you need to do a bunch of volume. Those articles dont apply to 99% of bodybuilders.