Capping question ...

H2O

Token English Female
I'm just about to place an order for some raw powders (Anavar and Winstrol). I don't want to make any liquid solutions to inject/drink, I simply want to cap them and go. But I'm getting confused! In my mind it was simple, I get the capping machine, empty caps, weighed the raw powder, filled the caps and I was set.

Thought I'd run a search that this was indeed correct, and came across the process below.

What confuses me is why would you need to add a filling powder to the mix, why not just the raw powder. Why would you need to add a filler powder i.e. sodium bicarbonate, corn starch?

CAPPING POWDERS:

Requirements:
capping machine (ie: Cap-M-Quick, The Capsule Machine)
blank caps: size 0 or 00
set of scales: must be accurate with very small measures
powder of selected compound (ie: anavar, clomid, Dianabol - methandrostenolone - , etc.)
filler powder (ie: sodium bicarbonate, corn starch, etc.)
mortar and pestle for mixing purposes

Procedure for an accurate mix:
To make this easier to follow, I will refer to the selected compound powder as 'CP' and the filler powder as 'FP'.
place blank caps in the capping machine
fill the caps with the FP (make sure they are completely full)
empty the caps out onto the scales and weigh the FP
divide the weight of the total FP by the number of capsules the machine produces per time
clean the scales off before proceeding
place blank caps in the capping machine
fill the caps with the CP (make sure they are completely full)
empty the caps onto the scales and weigh the CP
divide the weight of the total CP by the number of capsules the machine produces per time

You will now need to determine the ratio of weights of the respective powders CP:FP which you have just capped and weighed.
Remember now that you have 24 caps of CP and 24 caps of FP for a total of 48 caps.

This is just an example of weights:

We determined that our total FP weight for the 24 caps was 18,000 mg or 750 mg per cap.
We determined that our total CP weight for the 24 caps was 10,800 mg or 450 mg per cap.

If you are making 100 mg caps of a specific compound for use, then your equations would look like this:
Note: 100 mg does not represent the weight of the cap but rather the active indredient of the finished cap.

100 mg CP = (unknown number) mg FP

450 mg CP = 750 mg FP
100 mg CP = 750 mg FP / 4.5 mg CP
100 mg CP = 166.67 mg FP

750 mg FP - 166.67 mg FP = 583.33 mg FP

583.33 mg represents exactly how much FP must be used per cap to allow for the presence of the CP.

Therefore, to make 48 - 100 mg caps of the specified compound in this example, you would need:
27,999.84 mg of FP
4,800 mg CP

To mix the CP and FP together you will need to use the mortar and pestle.
For a proper mix, make sure that the amount of FP you are adding to the mortar is equal to the existing CP or CP+FP as the mix progresses.
place all of the CP in the mortar (4,800 mg from the above example)
place an equal amount of the FP in the mortar (4,800 mg)
mix for a few minutes
place an equal amount of FP in the mortar (this time 9,600 mg which is equal to 4,800 mg CP + 4,800 mg FP)
mix for a few minutes
place the remaining FP into the mortar and mix

You are now ready to cap.
 
cuz if u don't add a filler and ur making say 50mg caps then all the powder would fall into the first caps and they'd each be like 800mg

unless u were picking up 50mg at a time and just dropping it into each cap
 
FDW said:
cuz if u don't add a filler and ur making say 50mg caps then all the powder would fall into the first caps and they'd each be like 800mg

unless u were picking up 50mg at a time and just dropping it into each cap

Do you know I had to read that about four times before I really understood. Now I get it.

I am offically dumb. Thanks for this Frankie, appreciate the explaination.

Just wait until I have to struggle with the maths calculations; I think I'll be back with more questions.
 
The calculations are easy. This is what I did with Cap-M-Quik 50 cap machine.

(1)Fill 50 caps with filler (corn starch, etc)
Weigh the full caps. We will call this weight "A". Write it down.

(2)Now Weigh 50 empty caps. We will call this weight "B". Write it down.

(3) With these two numbers you can figure out how much powder is needed to fill those 50 caps. We will call this "C" (A-B=C)

Now, you want 10mg caps of var then you will need 10mg x 50 caps = 500mg = 0.5g of powder.

Take "C" and take out 500mg of your filler. Now add 500mg of var into the filler and mix it very well. This weight should be back at "C" Add this to your caps and you will have 50x10mg caps.


A = weight of 50 caps + filler
B = weight of 50 caps
C = weight of filler (product inside the caps)

Once you have figured out these calculations once you won't have to do it again as long as you use the same caps and same filler. You will always know what A B and C are.

Next time just take 500mg of power. Add filler until you reached the weight of "C". Add to caps. Done.
 
Easto said:
The calculations are easy. This is what I did with Cap-M-Quik 50 cap machine.

(1)Fill 50 caps with filler (corn starch, etc)
Weigh the full caps. We will call this weight "A". Write it down.

(2)Now Weigh 50 empty caps. We will call this weight "B". Write it down.

(3) With these two numbers you can figure out how much powder is needed to fill those 50 caps. We will call this "C" (A-B=C)

Now, you want 10mg caps of var then you will need 10mg x 50 caps = 500mg = 0.5g of powder.

Take "C" and take out 500mg of your filler. Now add 500mg of var into the filler and mix it very well. This weight should be back at "C" Add this to your caps and you will have 50x10mg caps.


A = weight of 50 caps + filler
B = weight of 50 caps
C = weight of filler (product inside the caps)

Once you have figured out these calculations once you won't have to do it again as long as you use the same caps and same filler. You will always know what A B and C are.

Next time just take 500mg of power. Add filler until you reached the weight of "C". Add to caps. Done.



Simpliest way to cap it.....Simpliest way to do it is to make it liquid to drink. You just need some olive oil or alcohol dependingon what youre trying to make
 
Easto said:
The calculations are easy. This is what I did with Cap-M-Quik 50 cap machine.

(1)Fill 50 caps with filler (corn starch, etc)
Weigh the full caps. We will call this weight "A". Write it down.

(2)Now Weigh 50 empty caps. We will call this weight "B". Write it down.

(3) With these two numbers you can figure out how much powder is needed to fill those 50 caps. We will call this "C" (A-B=C)

Now, you want 10mg caps of var then you will need 10mg x 50 caps = 500mg = 0.5g of powder.

Take "C" and take out 500mg of your filler. Now add 500mg of var into the filler and mix it very well. This weight should be back at "C" Add this to your caps and you will have 50x10mg caps.


A = weight of 50 caps + filler
B = weight of 50 caps
C = weight of filler (product inside the caps)

Once you have figured out these calculations once you won't have to do it again as long as you use the same caps and same filler. You will always know what A B and C are.

Next time just take 500mg of power. Add filler until you reached the weight of "C". Add to caps. Done.

This is beautiful, thank you so very much!
 
skarhead1 said:
Simpliest way to cap it.....Simpliest way to do it is to make it liquid to drink. You just need some olive oil or alcohol dependingon what youre trying to make

Thanks. I did read about this method but don't fancy it. I know the capping might take a little more time but it's the way forward for me.

What does anyone think of using protein powder as the filler in the capping?
 
protein powder clumps a bit.

i find the best is stuff that doesn't clump...like icing sugar
 
FDW said:
protein powder clumps a bit.

i find the best is stuff that doesn't clump...like icing sugar

What would be a better empty, or better calorie filler?
 
Easto said:
The calculations are easy. This is what I did with Cap-M-Quik 50 cap machine.

(1)Fill 50 caps with filler (corn starch, etc)
Weigh the full caps. We will call this weight "A". Write it down.

(2)Now Weigh 50 empty caps. We will call this weight "B". Write it down.

(3) With these two numbers you can figure out how much powder is needed to fill those 50 caps. We will call this "C" (A-B=C)

Now, you want 10mg caps of var then you will need 10mg x 50 caps = 500mg = 0.5g of powder.

Take "C" and take out 500mg of your filler. Now add 500mg of var into the filler and mix it very well. This weight should be back at "C" Add this to your caps and you will have 50x10mg caps.


A = weight of 50 caps + filler
B = weight of 50 caps
C = weight of filler (product inside the caps)

Once you have figured out these calculations once you won't have to do it again as long as you use the same caps and same filler. You will always know what A B and C are.

Next time just take 500mg of power. Add filler until you reached the weight of "C". Add to caps. Done.

Thanks Easto,

This is the best breakdown that I've seen...
 
Well H20,

I'll go the liquid and you cap them and we'll compare notes at a later date.

Good luck to you and email me with you results. :)
 
H2O said:
What would be a better empty, or better calorie filler?

i don't really worry about the 2.4 calories in the 600mg of sugar in my once daily dbol.

I guess if I was taking 50 tabs a day it might concern me, a tiny, tiny, tiny bit. For a second or two, perhaps
 
FDW said:
i don't really worry about the 2.4 calories in the 600mg of sugar in my once daily dbol.

I guess if I was taking 50 tabs a day it might concern me, a tiny, tiny, tiny bit. For a second or two, perhaps

True. But I'd rather eat a jelly tot!

Frankie got any links to some good scales. I had a supplier all lined up but just noticed that they are out of stock. Obviously when I say good, what I really mean is accurate and cheap!
 
creatine works really well and i dont know if ure using var or not but the two supposedly have a synergist effect
 
skarhead1 said:
creatine works really well and i dont know if ure using var or not but the two supposedly have a synergist effect

I'll be capping var and win. I think I prefer the thought of creatine over sugar and what you say is further encouraging.
 
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