Carverelli's cruise/cut cycle... Trt test, primo enth, S4 sarms
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Southernfish
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Ill be following along Cav brother, without a doubt.
YES NAC is good, keep using it. I know I don't even need to tell you that.
Ahhh the damn night shift, I don't know if you've done nightshift before but Ive been doing it for a while. Be prepared for your bodyweight to fluctuate. I have tried everything and it seems that's just the way it goes, so don't worry about it too much if it does happen. once night are over though seems like the weight goes right back on. Fuckin weird man.
Either way though, kill it man.
YES NAC is good, keep using it. I know I don't even need to tell you that.
Ahhh the damn night shift, I don't know if you've done nightshift before but Ive been doing it for a while. Be prepared for your bodyweight to fluctuate. I have tried everything and it seems that's just the way it goes, so don't worry about it too much if it does happen. once night are over though seems like the weight goes right back on. Fuckin weird man.
Either way though, kill it man.
carverelli
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I'd like the weight to fluctuate down if anything. A guy from the dayshift made a comment Friday night as he was headed home and my shift just started. "Dude, you're getting yoked!'Are you juicing?"
So it's already started.... I feel a little uncomfortable answering those kinds of questions. I try wearing looser shirts and whatnot but I guess it's inevitable, the questions. My goal is 230 lbs 12-15% bf. I'm right at 240 currently, still holding some fat around my lower chest and lower back.
The s4 sides about vision issues are starting to manifest. Yellow tint to everything
So it's already started.... I feel a little uncomfortable answering those kinds of questions. I try wearing looser shirts and whatnot but I guess it's inevitable, the questions. My goal is 230 lbs 12-15% bf. I'm right at 240 currently, still holding some fat around my lower chest and lower back.
The s4 sides about vision issues are starting to manifest. Yellow tint to everything
Southernfish
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Ya down is the way the weight will move on night shift, I eat as much as I can and I drop weight, most water and whatnot.
Man, just avoid those questions altogether, just say you've upped your calories and upped carb intake, as cheesy as that sounds who gonna say otherwise if you stick to that.
Ive never ran any SARMS, wtf is up with the yellow tinting to vision? That sounds like something that isn't very good.
Man, just avoid those questions altogether, just say you've upped your calories and upped carb intake, as cheesy as that sounds who gonna say otherwise if you stick to that.
Ive never ran any SARMS, wtf is up with the yellow tinting to vision? That sounds like something that isn't very good.
carverelli
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I hear it goes away when you stop taking s4. Of course I could lower dose if it gets too bad. We'll see how it goes.
carverelli
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Mon 7-13
Shoulder -traps workout today went fairly well.
Shrugs with HS ISO lateral machine
2 plates Wu
3 plates x3 sets with pause/holds at the end
HS shoulder presses
2 plates WU x20 reps
Added a quarter ES and banged out 3 working sets. 11,8,6 reps right shoulder felt strong and solid.
Cable standing rear delt laterals w/twin towers
Supersetted with face pulls 3 sets
Dumbell side laterals 27.5 lbs drop down to 20's for 3 sets
Shoulders pumped and achy feeling 1 hour 15 minutes.
Good pump with these
Shoulder -traps workout today went fairly well.
Shrugs with HS ISO lateral machine
2 plates Wu
3 plates x3 sets with pause/holds at the end
HS shoulder presses
2 plates WU x20 reps
Added a quarter ES and banged out 3 working sets. 11,8,6 reps right shoulder felt strong and solid.
Cable standing rear delt laterals w/twin towers
Supersetted with face pulls 3 sets
Dumbell side laterals 27.5 lbs drop down to 20's for 3 sets
Shoulders pumped and achy feeling 1 hour 15 minutes.
Good pump with these
carverelli
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Glad to hear it Buzz. Always nice to have support 
bigben66
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I'm following buddy...
Can't say it's a cycle I'd ever want to run - be careful with those S4 sides - not my bag that...
Great to hear you're doing lots of T.U.T. stuff - a few of my older clients are adding this to great effect, plus it's easy on the joints.
Good luck,
BigBen
Can't say it's a cycle I'd ever want to run - be careful with those S4 sides - not my bag that...
Great to hear you're doing lots of T.U.T. stuff - a few of my older clients are adding this to great effect, plus it's easy on the joints.
Good luck,
BigBen
carverelli
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No gym Tuesday and Wednesday. Work is draining my energy. Today I have to be at work an hour earlier...carpooling right now in fact. Hard to say but I think I'm looking leaner at the same weight. S4 is giving me a slight yellow tint to everything but it's manageable so far. Strength has been good as well as stamina, something I expected to diminish as the tren I was on in June clears my system.
Back and biceps tomorrow, tired or not
Back and biceps tomorrow, tired or not
China_Wall
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tren is good, but comes with too many evil passengers... primo is sneaky good as far as strength goes, and you feel good too
keep it up bro
keep it up bro
carverelli
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Finally..... got my back/biceps work done today. Back is one of those workouts I'm constantly changing exercise with and varying angles. So many muscles to stimulate, and only so much time. I generally do trap work with shoulders so no need to do shrugs etc on back day.
HS high row
2 plates WU x15
+ 25 ES 3 sets reps from 12- 8
Cable rows with seperate handles
1 heavy set then dropped the pin to 70% and did 2 more sets real slow squeezing shoulder blades together
Dumbell pullovers
WU w/ 75 lb
Then 3 sets w/ 100 lb for 12,10,8 reps
Finished off with 4'sets of preachers curls 2 narrow 2 wide grip. Don't remember the rep range but I went to failure + 2 reps on each set
Fast and furious finished in an hour.
Left elbow still tendonitis sore but was able to work around it. I afraid the days of workout without any pain are gone.
Chest and tris tomorrow. Weight is down.. 237 this morning.. Like to be in the 220's
HS high row
2 plates WU x15
+ 25 ES 3 sets reps from 12- 8
Cable rows with seperate handles
1 heavy set then dropped the pin to 70% and did 2 more sets real slow squeezing shoulder blades together
Dumbell pullovers
WU w/ 75 lb
Then 3 sets w/ 100 lb for 12,10,8 reps
Finished off with 4'sets of preachers curls 2 narrow 2 wide grip. Don't remember the rep range but I went to failure + 2 reps on each set
Fast and furious finished in an hour.
Left elbow still tendonitis sore but was able to work around it. I afraid the days of workout without any pain are gone.
Chest and tris tomorrow. Weight is down.. 237 this morning.. Like to be in the 220's
carverelli
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I'm hoping God doesn't strike me down for working out on the sabbath, but yesterday was a lazy day. Mainly just hung out and slept.
Got a chest and tricep workout done today before church services.
Flat bench dumbell presses..
WU x 20 reps s/ 50lb
3x85lb x 15,12,11 reps
Incline db presses
WU x15 x 50 lb
3 x 80 lb x 13,11,10 reps
Bodyweight dips
3x 20,16,14 reps
Scoops( low wide twin tower cable flyes)
I start with my hands just behind my hips and bring em both up and in finis in just at head height trying to touch them together.
3 sets w/ 35 lbs to failure
Tricep work was brief. 1, I was tired and 2, my triceps are massive and overshadow my shoulders so I work them but mostly for cuts not so much for size.
Cable push downs supersetted with cable overhead ext
3 sets to failure 1 drop set on last set.
Weight has been gravitating downward the tail end of the week. 236 lbs Friday morning
Went out with wife and friends Saturday night and had a burger and some fries(call it a cheat meal if u will)
This morning was 238 and change.
Next week gonna get some bloodwork done for several reasons.
1. Dialing in my estro control( using Rui letro and kalpa adex) I aromatize readily and use what most of you would think more AI than I need. This morning I felt really lethargic so I might have dropped my estro too low. Libido and performance have been fine but lethargy after a day of rest tells me my estro could be lower than optimal.
2. I want to check hemo, lipids, and kidney function.
3. As I'm running trt test dose and 600 mg primo, I want to make sure my primo is primo and not test. OP primo is very reasonably priced, about 60% of other labs primo which makes me a little suspect.
My very first run with primo so not sure what to expect.
Pumps have been really good without cramps like I've had with large doses of test and deca
Got a chest and tricep workout done today before church services.
Flat bench dumbell presses..
WU x 20 reps s/ 50lb
3x85lb x 15,12,11 reps
Incline db presses
WU x15 x 50 lb
3 x 80 lb x 13,11,10 reps
Bodyweight dips
3x 20,16,14 reps
Scoops( low wide twin tower cable flyes)
I start with my hands just behind my hips and bring em both up and in finis in just at head height trying to touch them together.
3 sets w/ 35 lbs to failure
Tricep work was brief. 1, I was tired and 2, my triceps are massive and overshadow my shoulders so I work them but mostly for cuts not so much for size.
Cable push downs supersetted with cable overhead ext
3 sets to failure 1 drop set on last set.
Weight has been gravitating downward the tail end of the week. 236 lbs Friday morning
Went out with wife and friends Saturday night and had a burger and some fries(call it a cheat meal if u will)
This morning was 238 and change.
Next week gonna get some bloodwork done for several reasons.
1. Dialing in my estro control( using Rui letro and kalpa adex) I aromatize readily and use what most of you would think more AI than I need. This morning I felt really lethargic so I might have dropped my estro too low. Libido and performance have been fine but lethargy after a day of rest tells me my estro could be lower than optimal.
2. I want to check hemo, lipids, and kidney function.
3. As I'm running trt test dose and 600 mg primo, I want to make sure my primo is primo and not test. OP primo is very reasonably priced, about 60% of other labs primo which makes me a little suspect.
My very first run with primo so not sure what to expect.
Pumps have been really good without cramps like I've had with large doses of test and deca
carverelli
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I hate to do it but I'm gonna cut everything off except trt test. I'm getting bloods done next week... my BP has been consistently elevated for 3 weeks. Avg has been 155/95. I'm not sure what's going on but I have to find out and get it down. If I can't find the issue myself I'll go to my doc. 6 weeks ago I drained out 2 cups of blood, so maybe I need to drain out more, but I'll let the bloodwork tell me . I stopped the s4 and now no more than 250 mg test c/week; might even go with 50 mg test prop eod.
Body weight is down around 236 that's pretty good
Body weight is down around 236 that's pretty good
Ziegler
light weightlifter
Draining 2 cups of blood on your own? High blood pressure for 3 weeks this and that. See a physician and donate blood at a clinic.
Ziegler
light weightlifter
Glad you changed out of the brief's and into a presentable pair of shorts. A debriefing was long over due. Thank You Sir!
snowpatrol123
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That's pretty intense (the self-phlebotomy) but good to hear you're putting health first as far as dropping the other compounds and doses.
And of course that doesn't necessarily have to mean you stop cutting/progressing as you know
carverelli
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I'm on blood thinner warfarin and I can't donate blood. So far I've done the self phlebotomy half a dozen different times without issue. Not sure that's the problem so I'll wait till I get bloodwork done next week, may do it sooner. Last time my doc did bloods my iron was low... prolly from donating blood to my toilet
Southernfish
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Hows night shift treating you man?
How long are your shifts? 12s?
Check your PMs
How long are your shifts? 12s?
Check your PMs
carverelli
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4pm to 2am an hours drive away. I'm getting used to it bro. Still hard to get meal prep, sleep, drive time grocery shopping etc done and a decent workout. Doing what i can though. Guys I don't know comment on my physique so I must beooking ok. 235 lbs this morning. BP was 135/85 this morning. Gonna keep doing what I can without multiple compounds until my bp is under control and blood work is looking good. I don't want another OHS to replace my aorta because I let my bp go unchecked for too long. That was the premise with using primo- supposed to be easier on the system
4pm to 2am an hours drive away. I'm getting used to it bro. Still hard to get meal prep, sleep, drive time grocery shopping etc done and a decent workout. Doing what i can though. Guys I don't know comment on my physique so I must beooking ok. 235 lbs this morning. BP was 135/85 this morning. Gonna keep doing what I can without multiple compounds until my bp is under control and blood work is looking good. I don't want another OHS to replace my aorta because I let my bp go unchecked for too long. That was the premise with using primo- supposed to be easier on the system
