Clenbuterol

[Toolshed23]

I LOVE clen! Just make sure to start at 40 mcg and work up. Highest I could take was 140 mcg. I tried 160 and I couldn't stand it! I have been off for about a month, and have had some problems with my heart (skipping beats during my workout). I used clen for 3 months (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) so I'm not sure if its the clen or a genetic prob. I'm going to the doc on Monday so Ill report what he says. I have a couple friends who love clen and have had no problems! Either way its a great product!!!

 

[bigherm2121]

S4 is great so far. Awesome pumps and endurance. Also muscle hardness is great

 

[coolhandjames]

I LOVE clen! Just make sure to start at 40 mcg and work up. Highest I could take was 140 mcg. I tried 160 and I couldn't stand it! I have been off for about a month, and have had some problems with my heart (skipping beats during my workout). I used clen for 3 months (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) so I'm not sure if its the clen or a genetic prob. I'm going to the doc on Monday so Ill report what he says. I have a couple friends who love clen and have had no problems! Either way its a great product!!!

heart skipping beats.... fuck me

what are you seeing result wise though....

are you noticing yourself leaning out?

is it coming fast???

 

[BigKevKris]

I got some heart palpitations on clen. Stuff is great if you can handle the sides.....the shakes make you look like a crack head.

 

[guambomb]

I don't know if the heart is directly affected by clenbuterol, because it has no beta-2 adrenergic receptors on it (just beta-1).
If anything, there is a constant vasodilation with lower peripheral resistance, thus causing the heart to pump harder to perfuse all the tissues (including the brain!) with the same amount of blood it has. This alone can lead to minor arrhythmias. However, I would still like to know if there is any deposition of clenbuterol within myocytes that facilitates apoptosis.

 

[coolhandjames]

I don't know if the heart is directly affected by clenbuterol, because it has no beta-2 adrenergic receptors on it (just beta-1).
If anything, there is a constant vasodilation with lower peripheral resistance, thus causing the heart to pump harder to perfuse all the tissues (including the brain!) with the same amount of blood it has. This alone can lead to minor arrhythmias. However, I would still like to know if there is any deposition of clenbuterol within myocytes that facilitates apoptosis.

Guambomb are you studying to become a doctor?

 

[guambomb]

just studying so i don't kill myself with any of these compounds!
but yeah, i did learn some fancy-pants words by taking anatomy, physiology, and pharmacology classes a long time ago.

 

[Sanson]

Uncle z is temporarily down hope they get back online soon!

 

[Repo]

what clen dose are you running? and what's the long term sides i've heard about, some people get em? not everybody?

Hey jimbo,

I'm running 180mcg + on Clenbuterol - the results are very similar to ECA stacks.

I'm still doing a lot of research on Clen and T3 - so I'm still learning - but I haven't had any concerns as far as long term effects.

From what I've seen from users there seems to be two basic categories.

The first category - the stuff gives you the shakes so you keep doses very low or discontinue it.

The second category - you get the shakes - they don't bother you and you're able to run high doses.

The second group is where I fall into - but I'm extremely tolerant to sides - my body responds well but the sides are never a concern.

So far I'm seeing great results - and I'm VERY glad I decided to give this s try.

 

[bigherm2121]

Ya repo. The sides aren't bad. They didn't bother me to bad, and to be honest with you. You kinda get used to the shakes. I mean there not to the point where you can't pick up a pencil and write. Were are you getting your stuff from if u don't mind ne asking. I went with rui.

 

[Prowl]

I'm on a test e and tren e rip right now, was thinking about finishing the cycle with some clen (good or bad idea)?, also i heard rumors that u can use clen during pct.. is that true???

 

[BigKevKris]

Clen is a great cutter if you can handle the shakes....i personally hate the stuff...but it works so well that I take it anyway

 

[powerman84]

This sounds like the kinda shit you wanna run at low doses for a long time... versus high doses for a couple weeks...

What would taurine do?

taurine helps out alot with the cramps.

 

[#1 CBR]

I don't know if the heart is directly affected by clenbuterol, because it has no beta-2 adrenergic receptors on it (just beta-1).
If anything, there is a constant vasodilation with lower peripheral resistance, thus causing the heart to pump harder to perfuse all the tissues (including the brain!) with the same amount of blood it has. This alone can lead to minor arrhythmias. However, I would still like to know if there is any deposition of clenbuterol within myocytes that facilitates apoptosis.

if a drug is a beta 2 agonist...then it will still have affinity and affect on beta 1 receptors such as the ones in the heart...

 

[guambomb]

Right, it preferentially acts on beta-2 receptors. Higher amounts of clenbuterol will have an effect on the heart (due to peripheral beta-2 receptor saturation and thus "excess" clenbuterol). This is how it can have inotropic effects. However, I was asking what the underlying mechanism is for cardiomyopathies despite lack of tachycardia (if it is even possible).

 

[BigKevKris]

The side effects are kind of scary no matter how you look at it.

 

[guambomb]

I'm starting to gather enough circumstantial information to say that the heart problems arise from lack of taurine.
Taurine is known to have protective effects on the heart.
Here is just one article saying as much

 

[BigKevKris]

Very interesting information here...thanks for the post....