Clomid with TRT.................

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I am currently taking 200mg test cyp per week, in addition to taking .25mg anastrozole if needed once per week. This routine puts my testosterone and E2 in good ranges.

My labs from my last bloodwork:
Test: 703 (Range 264-914 ng/dl)
Estradiol: 22 (Range 7.6-46 pg/ml)
Estrone: 34 (Range 12-72 pg/ml)


These are typical numbers that I get during bloodwork while using test cyp & anastrozole. This routine works well in that it gives me everything I need to function (energy, appetite, cognition, etc.). The two major issues I am still having are with a lackluster/inconsistent sex drive and testicular atrophy.

I used to take HCG as apart of my TRT (500iu once per week) which fixed those last two issues pretty well, but I've developed some sort of nasty resistance to HCG. It no longer provides relief of testicular atrophy nor does anything for my sex drive. Plus, with this resistance came awful side effects I hadn't experienced before, which were major water retention/bloat and weight gain.

With HCG no longer an option I've struggled to combat these last two problems I'm having. I take cialis daily (5mg) and have viagra on hand for when needed, but sometimes those don't even work as well as intended. The testicular atrophy really sucks as well.

I have clomid on hand (50mg pills) that I am looking to add to my routine to combat these problems. I am trying to do some research to see when the best dosing times would be and how I can avoid any similar side effects that I have with HCG. I'm aware clomid is not the ideal choice to combat testicular atrophy & sex drive issues, but with HCG no longer being an option I'm left with little choice.

Does anyone have any advice on the best way to incorporate clomid into a TRT routine?
 
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Take a low dose and see how you do. There was another thread on this recently. I started taking 12.5 mg daily a month ago. I am getting labs done soon to see how my numbers have changed, if at all.
 
Ok cool, when you get labs make sure you get LH and FSH. Will be looking for the results.

IMT, I am NOT trying to be a prick, nor am I trying to say I know everything. No one knows everything. HRT is a continuing work in progress. Years ago , and even today , many believe taking HCG while taking testosterone is a waste. Most see the HCG benifit, especially to TRT patients. We know the HPTA is broken while taking TRT, so in theory HCG is a waste, but is it? I am just seeing if something similar will happen with Clomid.

I have been on TRT for 8+ years. I get quarterly comprehensive blood work done. I know exactly where my LH and FSH are going to be. We both know they will be tanked. I am just trying something and sharing so myself and others can learn.
 
I know man, no worries at all.

I am not mad or upset at the discussion in any way, I am just saying if Clomid was working to increase testicular size and function then your LH and even moreso your FSH would be up. If its not, then the Clomid is not working thats all I am saying.

If it were up we would be interested to know the results, but the truth is Clomid is not strong enough to override suppression from androgens. So in some tissues the clomid is activating receptors, but in the tissues you want it to activate, its not working.
 
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