Comback Cycle after time off.

[dagab]

I have had 6months without training, competition shape have been at 105kg and 5-6% bodyfat last 5years before the layoff, and with only little use of steroids. Im at 110-115kg now and bodyfat I dont know, but its way to hight. I could have been getting in alot better shape before starting steroids now, but I dont have time because I have to get in shape to martial arts competition, so what im thinking is doing a 8 week cycle + 4week PST to lose bodyfat and gain back lost muscles, and get back to competition shape at 105kg and 5-6% in 12weeks.

Here is my plane (open for ideas)

Testo Prop 300mg week 1-8
Trenbolone E 400mg week 1-8
Nolvadex 25mg day week 9-12

I have to both get strent back to Normal and lose bodyfat/gain muscle, if not I would have gone for not using steroids, or if I had some more time.

Training will be, strengt training 3times a week, power training program with heavy basic exercises. And 2 times a week with hight intensive interval training (Gerilja Cardio) and 3times a week with "light" martial arts training.

Nutrition I will go for a verry high Protein, 3-400g a day, and low carbs, but adjust carbs after energi levels and progress. But mostley I will adjust weight loss with fats.

Hoping for any sugestions of improvments.

 

[Zeek]

Hi Dagab! welcome aboard!

105 kilos at 5% is some serious business so you obviously know what you are doing.

My question is why tren E instead of tren a since you are already going to have to do frequent injections from the prop. Also with an 8 week run would it not be better to have all fast acting compounds in there? Tren E won't kick in for almost 5 weeks.

I don't feel I recover well from nolva only PCT, you might want to consider adding clomid in there.

 

[balboa270]

This is a cycle to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with I wouldndt run nolva at all. Arom for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with this and clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) nolva wont do anything for ya on this my. 02

 

[dagab]

Hi Dagab! welcome aboard!

105 kilos at 5% is some serious business so you obviously know what you are doing.

My question is why tren E instead of tren a since you are already going to have to do frequent injections from the prop. Also with an 8 week run would it not be better to have all fast acting compounds in there? Tren E won't kick in for almost 5 weeks.

I don't feel I recover well from nolva only post cycle therapy (pct), you might want to consider adding clomid in there.

Thank you Zeek. I think i got good knowledge about nutrition and training, but after reading some on the forum here I can say Im not so advanced in my Knowledge as you and some of the others on here.

Lots of good information here, and I hope to get some good advices, and hopefully give some new knowledge with posting the results of my cycles here with blood work and as much information as possible.

But the reason for using Tren E was mostly because Im getting that cheaper then Tren A, but you have a good point, so I think will go for fast acting.

Im on a budget, so Im trying to get the best I can for the money.

I can get something called Cutmix: 1ml contain 50mg Test Prop, 50mg Tren A and 50mg Masteron. I would have to go for 7ml a week then, thats 350mg of each compund.

Or I can get Tren A and Testo Prop, that will actually be a little cheaper or I can go for higher dosages. But the question is if the Masteron will do anything good in the Cycle?

Do you have any advice?

Would you go for the Cutmix with also contains Masteron, or for just Tren A and Testo Prop?

Im also interested in the most optimal injection interval?

Regarding post cycle therapy (pct) I will consider adding Clomid, better safe then sorry with recovery.

Im going to check blod works after to make sure I get testo levels back to normal, and other values ofcourse.

I will post information with progress and blood works, I hope that can be useful information for others.

 

[dagab]

This is a cycle to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with I wouldndt run nolva at all. Arom for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with this and clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) nolva wont do anything for ya on this my. 02

How would you recomend to set up a PST with hcg?

 

[balboa270]

Not in post cycle therapy (pct) during cycle

 

[Zeek]

Thank you Zeek. I think i got good knowledge about nutrition and training, but after reading some on the forum here I can say Im not so advanced in my Knowledge as you and some of the others on here.

Lots of good information here, and I hope to get some good advices, and hopefully give some new knowledge with posting the results of my cycles here with blood work and as much information as possible.

But the reason for using Tren E was mostly because Im getting that cheaper then Tren A, but you have a good point, so I think will go for fast acting.

Im on a budget, so Im trying to get the best I can for the money.

I can get something called Cutmix: 1ml contain 50mg Test Prop, 50mg Tren A and 50mg Masteron. I would have to go for 7ml a week then, thats 350mg of each compund.

Or I can get Tren A and Testo Prop, that will actually be a little cheaper or I can go for higher dosages. But the question is if the Masteron will do anything good in the Cycle?

Do you have any advice?

Would you go for the Cutmix with also contains Masteron, or for just Tren A and Testo Prop?

Im also interested in the most optimal injection interval?

Regarding post cycle therapy (pct) I will consider adding Clomid, better safe then sorry with recovery.

Im going to check blod works after to make sure I get testo levels back to normal, and other values ofcourse.

I will post information with progress and blood works, I hope that can be useful information for others.

I'm not so sure about my knowledge being better than yours , The last time i saw 5% of anything was when that is what my sales tax was years ago

We are all strong in our own areas

Masteron is an interesting compound in that it does give gains that can be compared to primo but in lower dosages , faster and cheaper. It definitely has it's place within a cycle and even more so if your body fat is on the lower side.

With money breing tight for you I might go with thge cut mix, what brand is it?

 

[dagab]

Not in post cycle therapy (pct) during cycle

I guess you are right about that, but Im not sure my budget will alow that.

Are you thinking about using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the whole cycle or just the middle? I will also need Arimidex also then.

To avoid testicular "shrinking" and reduced production of natural testosterone I guess I would have to use it trough the whole Cycle right..?

But I have been reading allot of different opinions about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and I dont really have any own experience.