hey there people, im new to this board and i would appreciate your opinions. im 22 years old, 5'10, and weigh in at about 195, my bodyfat is about 18%. im concidering on taking a cycle to help put on some lean mass. i have a great source to QV products, so im thinking of taking some enantat 250. i read on the forum that deca is not to good for a first timer, could you guys help me with why its not. i also think that i might be pron to getting some estogen sides(or atleast im scared and dont want to). is it true that nolv. does not get rid of the estrogen and there is a possibilty that they(side effects) could come around once you stop taking it. with the cycle i would want to put on 15-20 quality pound and also some good strenght increases, and keep them all or atleast most. so could you guys help me with the lenght, the amout per week and also a good post cycle to stay away from the sides. or, if you guys could think of a good cycle with someother kind of gear i would appreciate those extra comments. thanks
concidering a cycle and need help with it
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StoneColdNTO
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Welcome to the board !!
I'll move this thread over to the main Anabolic forum for you.
I'll move this thread over to the main Anabolic forum for you.
StoneColdNTO
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jaccs said:
Not a problem.........
blackbeard
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welcome to 'ology..i think your just a tad too young id rather see you train natty for another year or even 2..i think over the course of a year you can slowly lower your bf and build a stronger base for your cycle..this is a great place to learn
DADAWG
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welcome to ology bro . if your worried about estrogen sides the sponsor of this forum http://www.ancillaryguys.com/ have not only nolva to block estrogen from attaching to breast tissue but they also have AIs like liquidex to prevent the conversion of test to estrogen in the body . 22 years old isnt bad but tell us about your training experience , if your training and eating isnt correct the gear is a waste . btw 400-500 mg of test e for 10-12 weeks followed 2 weeks after your last injection with post cycle therapy with clomid and or nolva .
There really isn't a reason why deca isn't good for a first timer. Most of the experienced users include testosterone in every cycle. It is very versitile and gets the job done. There is something to be said for doing it by itself on your first cycle.
Deca and test stack fine together. By adding deca, you get more anabolism, and if you use a bit less test since you are replacing some of it with deca, you end up with less possibility of experiencing some of the potential sides associated with test. Deca is perhaps half as strong as test on a milligram for milligram basis.
Deca and test stack fine together. By adding deca, you get more anabolism, and if you use a bit less test since you are replacing some of it with deca, you end up with less possibility of experiencing some of the potential sides associated with test. Deca is perhaps half as strong as test on a milligram for milligram basis.
well, in high school i used to play football. so i was working out everyday, then when i graduated i kept it up for about 1 yr. then i stoped because i fell in love(stupid) but for about the past 2 yr ive been at it again on and off but ive keept in the gym for the most part. ive never been able to really put on much muscle and im more of a naturally strong person, but im not very strong with weights and that gets me pissed off. i try to eat as healthy as possibe but my mother lives only a few mile from me and im sure u guys know how them home cooked meals are. as for the deca comment i made, the guy that would supply me with the goods is a good friend of mine, so i asked him for some advice and he recomended i do deca and test which is what i was really gonna do. then i did some research and heard/read from a few people that deca mostly just makes u retain alot of water more than gain muscle mass and that is the reason it makes a person gain weight. and also once off the cycle most or all of it will be lost. oh, and also, i read on the fourm that hcg should be used throughout the cycle to keep the nuts in check. would that be a good choice for me and this type of cycle. thanks for the help fellows
{R}a{G}e
Professional Beer Drinker
A test only cycle Should give you good gains. Side effects are common with many steroids and if your stacking test / Deca right off the bat and get some sides how are you to know what is causing it, or what one. Test usually gives such great gains from you first cycle if you do it right you should forget the deca. Test Enanthate at 500mg a week Cut into two 250mg shots should give you some impressive strength as well as size gains. I know 250 mg a week on my first cycle put alot of size on me, however i was a smaller guy.
Try out the test only if your set on a cycle.
Try out the test only if your set on a cycle.
on a cycyle of test, the bodys own natural test producton will drop right, or does it stop. is there a chance, or has it ever happened that the body does not kick back up and begin to produce test after the cycle is done. will it start back up to natural production, even if the body has a low production. im curious about this because i dont want to take a cycle and then my body not be able to produce my own test. sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but im a rookie to this and im trying to absorb as much information as i can. thanks for the help
StoneColdNTO
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All steroids will suppress your natural testosterone production.
As for it returning to normal, nothing is 100% certain in life, but with a good post cycle therapy (pct) and time, it should.
As for it returning to normal, nothing is 100% certain in life, but with a good post cycle therapy (pct) and time, it should.
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