Consensus on William Llewellyn's `IFBB pro` cycle

[thelettert]

recently started reading through William Llewllyns Anabolics and he states that he has interviewed many ifbb pros regarding their steroid cycles. and what caught me off guard is that he claims they do as little as 2-3 iu of hgh a day. Which to me sounds like bullshit. Is there any conseus towards Llewllyns stated Pro cycle? Is mega dosing of 25 iu of hgh and 6g++ a week a myth?


Any thoughts?


Thanks

 

[Mad- scientist]

The pro's mega dose their are no if's and's or but's about it. It isn't genetics that got today's pro's so much bigger than the pro's in the past. It is better drugs and more drugs. Also combined with the fact now a lot of them can make a living doing just bodybuilding. So they have a lot more time to work on their physique compared to the past. Honestly though all the pro's are using big dosages of steroids. And if their are some pro's out their that are not I doubt they are doing good. I looked into what it takes to go pro and what top NPC competitors are using pretty heavily for a long time. And I still continue to look into what the pro's take.

 

[Mad- scientist]

I mean look at the top 3 bodybuilders in the world you can tell the amount of muscle they have is a lot more than a normal cycle of steroids and a small amount of hgh could ever give them. Honestly the human body just is not designed to be that lean and muscular and it takes a lot of drugs to get it to that point and for it to stay their. Of course food and training are a very big aspect to.

 

[thelettert]

excellent reply. just out of curiosity what do you think of William Llewllyns work? I've learned so much reading through anabolics but this is kinda a big knock to his credibility for me.

 

[Mad- scientist]

Lol your probably going to hate me after I say this. But I honestly never have read any of his stuff. I just have looked into bodybuilding for so long that I finally have gotten a idea about what some of these guys are running. I'm sure their are some pro's that do run lower doses and that they are not mega dosing to a insane degree. But I think that they probably have great genetics to begin with. And if they are not mega dosing they are probably lower rank guys that we have not heard of. I mean their are different level's of pro body builders. but even if you look at the Guy's in the NPC that are just turning pro or about to turn pro. They are taking a good amount of stuff.

Lol their are some guy's who are like 23 who get up to 300 pounds in the off season. And are not over 15% body fat. I mean it's just insane. And it takes a lot of gear and other stuff to do it. I think it's sad that's how it is. But it's true. And we are all entertained by seeing the next biggest freakiest guy. So it's kind of the public that creates the demand for these guy's to be so big.

 

[Mad- scientist]

I would like it a lot better if people just used steroids and stayed away from all the other stuff. I feel like it would be a more level playing field than. Not every one would have to risk their health as much in order to go pro.

 

[thelettert]

I would like it a lot better if people just used steroids and stayed away from all the other stuff. I feel like it would be a more level playing field than. Not every one would have to risk their health as much in order to go pro.

oh i agree completely, the days of dianbol and deca are long behind us. its a great book though, if you get a chance to read it. He even published andreas mutzer last cycle.

Weeks 1-10
ephedrine
aspirin
clenbuterol
cytomel

Weeks 1-5
500mg daily of test enanthate
152mg daily of parabolan
150mg daily of dianabol
150mg daily of halotestin
20 IU daily of HGH
20 IU daily of Insulin

Weeks 6-8
300mg daily of masteron
152mg daily of parabolan
250mg daily of winstrol tabs
150mg daily of halotestin
50mg daily of winstrol inj
24 IU daily of HGH

Weeks 9-10
200mg daily of masteron
100mg daily of winny inj
200mg daily of halotestin
400mg daily of winny tabs
24 IU daily of HGH
Insulin daily
IGF-1 daily

Days 1-3 leading up to show
aldactone, lasix

 

[Mad- scientist]

I had to edit your post. Theirs no talking about recreational drugs on steroidology even if its part of a cycle. People will ask about it and it will turn into a big conversation focusing on that. So its best if its just not mentioned.

 

[noway55]

sure most of them are taking 2-3 iu


... four to five times a day or more

 

[DipKing]

He even published andreas mutzer last cycle.
Weeks 9-10
100mg daily of winny inj
400mg daily of winny tabs

Dang...seems a little overkill if that's true.

 

[thelettert]

Oh sorry had no idea