Considering doing a cycle while on TRT

[rinkerx]

I take 200mg/week of test cyp right now with .4ml of hcg.. I'm not really sure where to even start I respond well to the test cyp my levels on TRT are around 700-800 so I wanted to stay with running a cycle of test cyp, not really sure what else to get?

I figured I wouldn't need a PCT?

I'm not sure of a dosage, I'm about 5'10 200lbs 15-20% BF roughly

This would be my first time so any advice would be helpful

 

[halfwit]

How long have you been on TRT? It's important to have that dialed in first, and if you're only a few months in, you're probably still being tested fairly frequently. Popping high on a blood test for your doc is a sure fire way to get your script yanked.

 

[luckypaul]

You will make nice gains on test alone. With bf% where it is keep it simple and increase lean body mass. No pct is needed but an AI is.

 

[Teutonic]

Both HW and LP are right on...u maybe prescribed an ai already you did not mention that. But if you WERE to increase ur dose to say 500 a standard 1 st run the need for an ai or at least have one ready in the event water or other issues come to light would be wise.

I ll repeat HW s warning. If u r apt to get a blood draw and u come in w triple or more test levels unless u and ur doc have 2 files on you ( like my doc and I ) be careful and stop the added test c 2 or better yet 3 or 4 weeks b4 the draw.

T

 

[soldier74]

bloods

Best wait until your numbers are in the range your Dr Is shooting for with you. Get leveled off on that first. Then see how often he draws blood. Like Teut said, when u start a blast, give yourself at least 2 weeks after last shot before bloods so you numbers aren't thru the roof when he gets the results.
Agreed, keep AI on hand as you may need that.

 

[rinkerx]

My levels are dialed in, I have been on TRT for the past 3 years my Dr is extremely cool he doesn't require blood tests just kind of prescribes me the test.. I first got diagnosed with a different endo but since moved. I do however for my own safety get the normal blood tests done every year at least. He honestly doesn't know a lot about TRT but has confidence in me scheduling blood tests he obviously looks over the results but that's about it.

I was prescribed an AI at first but after a few blood tests it wasn't needed

Also would the 500 be twice weekly or just 500 total mg per week? And is that on top of what I currently take or all together?

 

[SoHo]

how old are you?

first off, is this self prescribed TRT or legit from a doctor? if its from a doctor and you are a new HRT patient, as far as i know they schedule monthly bloods to dial your levels in. cause if you're new and your doctor is still monitoring you monthly or even once every two months, you can not fuck with your dose. he will know somethings up from the bloodwork and you'll lose his trust.

second, 7-800 ng/dl for 200mg test a week sounds a bit low especially if you're using HCG. you should be at or above 1000 easily. you probably pin once a week and got those bloods done a day before your next injection, am i right? try pinning 100mg mondays and thursdays.

as far as bodyfat, 15-20% is a huge difference bro its day and night. either way, if i was 15-20% my only goal would be to cut cut cut. with AAS, gaining lean mass is way easier than losing fat so i always think its more logical to get as lean as you can before you attempt to build muscle. IMO, what good is a chubby 17% bodyfat dude with lots of muscle?

i'm gonna assume you're 15%. 5'10 200lbs @ 15% is a pretty big dude. if you work hard and cut till the end of april you could probably get down to 10%. then on the first of may you hop on 500mgs of test and with the right lifestyle you can easily gain 20-25lbs of lean mass in 12 weeks. lets say that all equates to 5'10 200lbs @ 10% bodyfat. those are some fuckin great stats right there.

 

[rinkerx]

I was diagnosed over 3 years ago when my test level was about 185, as far as I can remember it's been between 700-900 while taking 200 mg test cyp per week.

 

[SoHo]

I was diagnosed over 3 years ago when my test level was about 185, as far as I can remember it's been between 700-900 while taking 200 mg test cyp per week.

when were those bloods taken (what time of the week, how long after injection)? and how often are you pinning?

 

[Milton]

how old are you?

first off, is this self prescribed TRT or legit from a doctor? if its from a doctor and you are a new HRT patient, as far as i know they schedule monthly bloods to dial your levels in. cause if you're new and your doctor is still monitoring you monthly or even once every two months, you can not fuck with your dose. he will know somethings up from the bloodwork and you'll lose his trust.

second, 7-800 ng/dl for 200mg test a week sounds a bit low especially if you're using HCG. you should be at or above 1000 easily. you probably pin once a week and got those bloods done a day before your next injection, am i right? try pinning 100mg Mondays and Thursdays.

as far as bodyfat, 15-20% is a huge difference bro its day and night. either way, if i was 15-20% my only goal would be to cut cut cut. with AAS, gaining lean mass is way easier than losing fat so i always think its more logical to get as lean as you can before you attempt to build muscle. IMO, what good is a chubby 17% bodyfat dude with lots of muscle?

i'm gonna assume you're 15%. 5'10 200lbs @ 15% is a pretty big dude. if you work hard and cut till the end of April you could probably get down to 10%. then on the first of may you hop on 500mgs of test and with the right lifestyle you can easily gain 20-25lbs of lean mass in 12 weeks. lets say that all equates to 5'10 200lbs @ 10% bodyfat. those are some fuckin great stats right there.

It could not of have been said better.

 

[halfwit]

My levels are dialed in, I have been on TRT for the past 3 years my Dr is extremely cool he doesn't require blood tests just kind of prescribes me the test.. I first got diagnosed with a different endo but since moved. I do however for my own safety get the normal blood tests done every year at least. He honestly doesn't know a lot about TRT but has confidence in me scheduling blood tests he obviously looks over the results but that's about it.

I was prescribed an AI at first but after a few blood tests it wasn't needed

Also would the 500 be twice weekly or just 500 total mg per week? And is that on top of what I currently take or all together?

I'd go with 500mg per week TOTAL for your first time going with supraphysiological doses. You will likely need an AI, so start small and verify with blood work if more is needed.

I think you're more than ready, and certainly appear to have everything in order. Just be sure to keep on top of hematocrit - it will see a spike from the additional testosterone.

My .02c

 

[rinkerx]

I'm currently doing 100mg twice a week with .4 ml hcg twice a week

What should I all get tested on my bloodwork? and should I get it half-way through or what?

any specific AI? or is it just personal preference?

 

[halfwit]

I'm currently doing 100mg twice a week with .4 ml hcg twice a week

What should I all get tested on my bloodwork? and should I get it half-way through or what?

any specific AI? or is it just personal preference?

I'd just get the female hormone panel from labsmd. The AI is really a personal preference, but adex is the easiest to manage. Aromasin is the "best", but it costs significantly more as it needs to be run ED.

I usually get one done around 5-6 weeks in, or if I'm thinking something might be off. I also suggest that if you have Dr ordered labs coming up after the blast, I'd get another private test a week or so prior to make sure that you don't pop high. If you do, you can give advance warning to your doctor that you need to push out their test due to <insert excuse here> for a couple weeks tops as your test continues to head down to in-range values.

 

[Milton]

when were those bloods taken (what time of the week, how long after injection)? and how often are you pinning?

Has this been answered?

 

[SoHo]

Has this been answered?

yeah, partially. didn't tell us when he got those bloods taken. i'd imagine though if he's pinning twice a week his levels should be quite even.

I'm currently doing 100mg twice a week with .4 ml hcg twice a week

What should I all get tested on my bloodwork? and should I get it half-way through or what?

any specific AI? or is it just personal preference?

HCG is measured in IU (units) not milliliters. how many iu's total is in the box you have?

as far as blood work, since you have legit HCG from a pharmacy (right?) you don't have to worry about checking FSH and LH. if you're generally healthy, you should be fine with just getting your total test, estradiol and maybe progesterone checked 2-3 weeks after you start, everything else is bullshit. then a few weeks after finishing the blast get the same test with the addition of liver values.

when i'm on high test i like using aromasin just because i like shorter acting things better, its easier to control. are you using an AI right now? because if you are, and you're already dialed in with that one then its best to just stick to it and do the math when adjusting it to your test dose.

also what brand is your testosterone? i'll say it again bro.. at 200mg a week with the addition of HCG, 7-800ng/dl doesnt sound right to me. like i said above, you should be at or 100.

good luck young padawan

 

[rinkerx]

Sorry it took me a while to respond, I'm not entirely sure how long after I had my blood work done..

400 units of hcg twice a week and yes from a pharmacy

I currently don't take an AI

Sun Pharmaceuticals test cyp

I was taking anastrozole when I first started but the dr said I didn't need it after a few times getting blood work done

Should I stick with .25mg of anastrozole during my cycle?

 

[CindBB]

Sorry it took me a while to respond, I'm not entirely sure how long after I had my blood work done..

400 units of hcg twice a week and yes from a pharmacy

I currently don't take an AI

Sun Pharmaceuticals test cyp

I was taking anastrozole when I first started but the dr said I didn't need it after a few times getting blood work done

Should I stick with .25mg of anastrozole during my cycle?

So you sides have been under control?

 

[rinkerx]

So you sides have been under control?

Yes no sides at all, I think I'm going to do 500mg/per week split into 2 injections, with .5 mg of anastrozole per week, along with 800 units of hcg per week, I shall get my levels tested 5-6 weeks in to see if I need to up my anastrozole.

Does this seem like a good place to start? I'm kinda nervous as this is my first cycle.. not really nervous about pinning as i'm on TRT but I want to make sure I get all the doses right..

What should I get on my test 5-6 weeks in?

Test, E2, hemocrit? anything else?

 

[AverageMan]

Yes no sides at all, I think I'm going to do 500mg/per week split into 2 injections, with .5 mg of anastrozole per week, along with 800 units of hcg per week, I shall get my levels tested 5-6 weeks in to see if I need to up my anastrozole.

Does this seem like a good place to start? I'm kinda nervous as this is my first cycle.. not really nervous about pinning as i'm on TRT but I want to make sure I get all the doses right..

What should I get on my test 5-6 weeks in?

Test, E2, hemocrit? anything else?

I'm on trt and doing my first blast as well. You should get the labs outlined in the sticky - Labsmd female hormone panel. It has everything you need and is around 70 bux. I'm going in for my second on cycle labs in 2 weeks.

Your ai dose my be too low, but every one is different and only labs will tell.

 

[rinkerx]

Should I make it 1mg per week?