Constantly tired on Test-E Adex and HCG

[oklahomaboy]

Im on week 4 of my test cycle of 600mg i take adex EOD and Started HCG last week at 300 twice a week.

Here is the deal ever since i got on the HCG i feel so tired come home take a nap after classes at 2 or 3 now I'm tired already again and it only 7. I didn't sleep worth shit the first week but now i have no excuse. Although i have been waking up earlier than normal for some reason it like my body doesn't want to sleep for long periods of time, it would rather break it up in though out the day. Since in HGC my nads came back to life again too!

A bit off subject but Yesterday i came home and put some jeans out on the balcony to dry came in sat down and passed the fuck out. Came out side and someone jacked my shit i had a rush of anger like iv never felt before i just want to make sure i should be feeling this way.

Thanks in advance guys i tried searching for this but everyone seems to have tons of energy on test. When i took a dbol cycle i felt like i was king of the world haven't experienced that with test yet.

 

[jadakiss]

Are u eatin enough food?

 

[oklahomaboy]

Are u eatin enough food?

Ya my diet hasn't changed since the tiredness started maybe i need more Cal's since my test levels went up I'm getting 200 grams of protein and 3000 cals a day and i only weigh 165-170

 

[jadakiss]

Are u tryin to gain mass or lean

 

[Bullseye Forever]

have you had your Estradiol or your Thyroid Gland tested......low or high Estradiol will make you tired,no energy,no libdo etc,also if your thyroid is not funtioning right you will experience the same thing......you m ay be using to much Arimidex,its a estrogen suicide inhibitor,it kills estrogen.......why dont you try aromasin,it only controls 60-80% of your estrogen and more forgiving than arimidex,you need a blood test and the level needs to be between 25-35pg/ml

Also your test may be aromatizing into estrogen as well,you wont have any physical effects like gyno,or sore nipples,this means alot of your test is being converting to estrogen and you cant feel that,so thats why a blood test is essential

 

[Thedude67]

Hcg got my estrogen levels high . I was tired all the time bro. If u can get bloodwOrk done u mite find the root of the problem. Maybe just an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) adjustment is needed.

 

[oklahomaboy]

Gain mass but clean mass

 

[oklahomaboy]

have you had your Estradiol or your Thyroid Gland tested......low or high Estradiol will make you tired,no energy,no libdo etc,also if your thyroid is not funtioning right you will experience the same thing......you m ay be using to much Arimidex,its a estrogen suicide inhibitor,it kills estrogen.......why dont you try aromasin,it only controls 60-80% of your estrogen and more forgiving than arimidex,you need a blood test and the level needs to be between 25-35pg/ml

Also your test may be aromatizing into estrogen as well,you wont have any physical effects like gyno,or sore nipples,this means alot of your test is being converting to estrogen and you cant feel that,so thats why a blood test is essential

I think the Hcg might be whats causing it i think ill cut down on my dose a bit i was horny as hell before i started taking it. Would only taking one injection a week be a good starting point? And will the docs do a blood test like that for me? I mean i know they are going to try to tell that i shouldn't be taking steroids and all that bs.

Ill start eating more to see if i feel normal again before my next pin and if not ill skip the pin and see if i improve. Does this sound like a good game plan?

 

[Thedude67]

If ur goin in 4 n annual physical the doc shouldn't even question it. Tell him u want a full male panel done. It has always worked 4 me

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I think the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) might be whats causing it i think ill cut down on my dose a bit i was horny as hell before i started taking it. Would only taking one injection a week be a good starting point? And will the docs do a blood test like that for me? I mean i know they are going to try to tell that i shouldn't be taking steroids and all that bs.

Ill start eating more to see if i feel normal again before my next pin and if not ill skip the pin and see if i improve. Does this sound like a good game plan?

it is the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), your E is too high. drop the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) altogether til the end of your cycle.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

it is the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), your E is too high. drop the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) altogether til the end of your cycle.

Det,got a question,how will the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) cause tiredness etc? just curious

 

[Natehayes]

Det,got a question,how will the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) cause tiredness etc? just curious

Not answering for Det or pretending I have even a fraction of his knowledge, but I can tell you if the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) pushed his estro too high he will have the symptoms of high E (which are mostly the same as low E): fatigue, reduced sex drive, etc.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Not answering for Det or pretending I have even a fraction of his knowledge, but I can tell you if the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) pushed his estro too high he will have the symptoms of high E (which are mostly the same as low E): fatigue, reduced sex drive, etc.

yup


HCG directly stimulates Aroma in the leydig cells, these are basically dense fat cells.

AI strength's rely on which can penetrate deeper into these dense lipid cells (fat cells in the body, this is why fat people have more estrogen).

so letro for instance can go deeper into your fat cells in the body, in these fat cells is where most of the aromatase activity is.

to where adex can not penetrate deep into these cells.

so this is why some guys get gyno on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) no matter what they take.

so im assuming the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) has pushed his E up, making him feel lethargic.

when my E gets up thats how i feel, if i start an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) within days i will have mroe energy.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

Not answering for Det or pretending I have even a fraction of his knowledge, but I can tell you if the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) pushed his estro too high he will have the symptoms of high E (which are mostly the same as low E): fatigue, reduced sex drive, etc.

yup


HCG directly stimulates Aroma in the leydig cells, these are basically dense fat cells.

AI strength's rely on which can penetrate deeper into these dense lipid cells (fat cells in the body, this is why fat people have more estrogen).

so letro for instance can go deeper into your fat cells in the body, in these fat cells is where most of the aromatase activity is.

to where adex can not penetrate deep into these cells.

so this is why some guys get gyno on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) no matter what they take.

so im assuming the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) has pushed his E up, making him feel lethargic.

when my E gets up thats how i feel, if i start an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) within days i will have mroe energy.

thanks guys

 

[oklahomaboy]

yup


HCG directly stimulates Aroma in the leydig cells, these are basically dense fat cells.

AI strength's rely on which can penetrate deeper into these dense lipid cells (fat cells in the body, this is why fat people have more estrogen).

so letro for instance can go deeper into your fat cells in the body, in these fat cells is where most of the aromatase activity is.

to where adex can not penetrate deep into these cells.

so this is why some guys get gyno on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) no matter what they take.

so im assuming the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) has pushed his E up, making him feel lethargic.

when my E gets up thats how i feel, if i start an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) within days i will have mroe energy.

So is there a way to keep my nads from shrinking without taking my HCG? Or will i be ok just using it with my PCT or do i use it as PCT alone?

Thanks OAK my nips got a little sore after your post so you were correct about the increasing estrogen!

Also will my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) be ok for 5 more weeks in the fridge?

 

[king321]

Hey Oak what do you suggest for blast phase of HCG?

 

[TraPump]

yup


HCG directly stimulates Aroma in the leydig cells, these are basically dense fat cells.

AI strength's rely on which can penetrate deeper into these dense lipid cells (fat cells in the body, this is why fat people have more estrogen).

so letro for instance can go deeper into your fat cells in the body, in these fat cells is where most of the aromatase activity is.

to where adex can not penetrate deep into these cells.

so this is why some guys get gyno on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) no matter what they take.

so im assuming the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) has pushed his E up, making him feel lethargic.

when my E gets up thats how i feel, if i start an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) within days i will have mroe energy.

great info det thanks again! you're a huge asset to this forum!