gator_mclusky
Man on a Mission
things change form day to day.....soooooo whats the latest on converting 10 grams into useable gear?
Any help greatly appreciated.
Gator
Any help greatly appreciated.
Gator
Converting test susp....i know its been asked but
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NYCEE
Brewing.....
I used RJH's recipe from this thread http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70951 and it was a pretty painful and i could only get it through a 23G pin. Then i tried this recipe which is almost identical but uses more ps80 and is only 75mg/ml and it works well.
http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17234
http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17234
NYCEE said:
I didn't like Spydies recipe cause putting heat on the mix seems inappropriate cause it woudn't be micronized at that point. Maybe I'm wrong.
NYCEE, did you try drawing with a 23g and pushing thru a smaller gauge needle. Also, you can add a couple more drops of PS80 to my recipe and it should help with the clumping more.
NYCEE
Brewing.....
I actually draw with a 20G, then i have tried to push through 27G slin pin, 25G, and 23G. The 23 always works, the 25 works sometimes and the 27 seems to clog up. This is the exact recipe i used, i got it from SBI forums:
FROM SPYDIE AT BOLEX
Step 1.) MAKING BACTERIOSTATIC WATER.
1. Put distilled water into a pan and bring to a boil for 2 minutes.
2. Now add ice to bring water to a cold temp as quickly as possible.
3. Add 1% Benzyl Alcohol and .25% PolySorbate 80 to sterile container **percentages need to be in proper ratio to total volume of liquid**
4. Make sure all ice is melted, and then filter water into large sterile container where we added the BA and PS80 (this is where we will store our “bulk” bacteriostatic water.)
5. Now swirl the mixture so that it is totally absorbed, and now our bacteriostatic water is finished.
Guys, I've been working my butt off to perfect this and I finally got it. Here is a formula for Test no ester (water based suspention) at 75mg/ml that will pass through a 30ga slin pin with no clogging. ENJOY!!!
TNE suspention 75mg/ml
Supplies needed
1.5 Grams TNE powder
2 .22um whatman filter
1 10ml vial
1 20ml vial
2 18ga pins with 3ml plungers
1 5 ml plunger
1 10ml plunger
2 ml Benzyl Benzoate (10%)
.4 ml Benzyl Alcohol (2%)
.6 ml Polysorbate 80 (3%)***Trust me on this***
15.875 ml Distilled water
1. Add your BB and PS80 to your beaker (10ml vial) with your TNE powder and heat until it is in liquid form.
2. reduce heat enough to keep it liquid (med low temp on a hot plate) ***note: you must keep it on heat so it does not crash while filtering into the distilled water***
3 Put .4 ml BA and 15.875 ml distilled water in your 20ml vile.
4. Most of you will prefer to filter the BB/PS80/TNE mix which it great, but I prefer just to use a glass dropper to slowly drop it into the water 1ml at a time (BECAUSE GLASS WILL NOT MELT IN YOUR HAND) However, if you want to filter the concentrate use a .45um whatman filter and only do 1 ml at a time.
5. slowly add your BB/PS80/TNE mixture to your water 1 ml at a time, and after every ml you add put the stopper on the vile and shake vigerously. REMEMBER ONE ML AT A TIME. **THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT**
by the time you're done it should be milky white and perfect, with this method it won't clump or seperate to the bottom like it did with PEG. The TNE will stay milky and completely seperated and will go through a 30ga by 1/2" slin pin like pure water with no clogging and no pain at all!
Trust me you guys will love this!
FROM SPYDIE AT BOLEX
Step 1.) MAKING BACTERIOSTATIC WATER.
1. Put distilled water into a pan and bring to a boil for 2 minutes.
2. Now add ice to bring water to a cold temp as quickly as possible.
3. Add 1% Benzyl Alcohol and .25% PolySorbate 80 to sterile container **percentages need to be in proper ratio to total volume of liquid**
4. Make sure all ice is melted, and then filter water into large sterile container where we added the BA and PS80 (this is where we will store our “bulk” bacteriostatic water.)
5. Now swirl the mixture so that it is totally absorbed, and now our bacteriostatic water is finished.
Guys, I've been working my butt off to perfect this and I finally got it. Here is a formula for Test no ester (water based suspention) at 75mg/ml that will pass through a 30ga slin pin with no clogging. ENJOY!!!
TNE suspention 75mg/ml
Supplies needed
1.5 Grams TNE powder
2 .22um whatman filter
1 10ml vial
1 20ml vial
2 18ga pins with 3ml plungers
1 5 ml plunger
1 10ml plunger
2 ml Benzyl Benzoate (10%)
.4 ml Benzyl Alcohol (2%)
.6 ml Polysorbate 80 (3%)***Trust me on this***
15.875 ml Distilled water
1. Add your BB and PS80 to your beaker (10ml vial) with your TNE powder and heat until it is in liquid form.
2. reduce heat enough to keep it liquid (med low temp on a hot plate) ***note: you must keep it on heat so it does not crash while filtering into the distilled water***
3 Put .4 ml BA and 15.875 ml distilled water in your 20ml vile.
4. Most of you will prefer to filter the BB/PS80/TNE mix which it great, but I prefer just to use a glass dropper to slowly drop it into the water 1ml at a time (BECAUSE GLASS WILL NOT MELT IN YOUR HAND) However, if you want to filter the concentrate use a .45um whatman filter and only do 1 ml at a time.
5. slowly add your BB/PS80/TNE mixture to your water 1 ml at a time, and after every ml you add put the stopper on the vile and shake vigerously. REMEMBER ONE ML AT A TIME. **THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT**
by the time you're done it should be milky white and perfect, with this method it won't clump or seperate to the bottom like it did with PEG. The TNE will stay milky and completely seperated and will go through a 30ga by 1/2" slin pin like pure water with no clogging and no pain at all!
Trust me you guys will love this!
pullinbig said:
Yeah, Spydie doesn't filter his stuff. Don't know why???
Either way, its seems like an awful lot to go thru to make Bac Water also. but whatever works i guess. I have had no probs with my recipe. Of course it causing some pain, but what waterbased doesn't at least a little.
**Credited to warriorwithin**
Here is his first recipe that does include filter instructions. If you trust your powder and you have properly made sterile water usuing all sterile equipment then no need to fuck with filters.
Guys, I've been working my butt off to perfect this and I finally got it. Here is a formula for Test no ester (water based suspention) at 75mg/ml that will pass through a 30ga slin pin with no clogging. ENJOY!!!
TNE suspention 75mg/ml
Supplies needed
1.5 Grams TNE powder
2 .22um whatman filter
1 10ml vial
1 20ml vial
2 18ga pins with 3ml plungers
1 5 ml plunger
1 10ml plunger
2 ml Benzyl Benzoate (10%)
.4 ml Benzyl Alcohol (2%)
.6 ml Polysorbate 80 (3%)***Trust me on this***
15.875 ml Distilled water
1. Add your BB and PS80 to your beaker (10ml vial) with your TNE powder and heat until it is in liquid form.
2. reduce heat enough to keep it liquid (med low temp on a hot plate) ***note: you must keep it on heat so it does not crash while filtering into the distilled water***
3 Put .4 ml BA and 15.875 ml distilled water in your 20ml vile.
4. Most of you will prefer to filter the BB/PS80/TNE mix which it great, but I prefer just to use a glass dropper to slowly drop it into the water 1ml at a time (BECAUSE GLASS WILL NOT MELT IN YOUR HAND) However, if you want to filter the concentrate use a .45um whatman filter and only do 1 ml at a time.
5. slowly add your BB/PS80/TNE mixture to your water 1 ml at a time, and after every ml you add put the stopper on the vile and shake vigerously. REMEMBER ONE ML AT A TIME. **THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT**
by the time you're done it should be milky white and perfect, with this method it won't clump or seperate to the bottom like it did with PEG. The TNE will stay milky and completely seperated and will go through a 30ga by 1/2" slin pin like pure water with no clogging and no pain at all!
Trust me you guys will love this!
Please note all credit for this info goes to Spydie at bolex.
And, if you wish to make it 100mg/ml, just up the ps80 to 4% and increase the BB to 12% and it should turn out milky white....
Here is his first recipe that does include filter instructions. If you trust your powder and you have properly made sterile water usuing all sterile equipment then no need to fuck with filters.
Guys, I've been working my butt off to perfect this and I finally got it. Here is a formula for Test no ester (water based suspention) at 75mg/ml that will pass through a 30ga slin pin with no clogging. ENJOY!!!
TNE suspention 75mg/ml
Supplies needed
1.5 Grams TNE powder
2 .22um whatman filter
1 10ml vial
1 20ml vial
2 18ga pins with 3ml plungers
1 5 ml plunger
1 10ml plunger
2 ml Benzyl Benzoate (10%)
.4 ml Benzyl Alcohol (2%)
.6 ml Polysorbate 80 (3%)***Trust me on this***
15.875 ml Distilled water
1. Add your BB and PS80 to your beaker (10ml vial) with your TNE powder and heat until it is in liquid form.
2. reduce heat enough to keep it liquid (med low temp on a hot plate) ***note: you must keep it on heat so it does not crash while filtering into the distilled water***
3 Put .4 ml BA and 15.875 ml distilled water in your 20ml vile.
4. Most of you will prefer to filter the BB/PS80/TNE mix which it great, but I prefer just to use a glass dropper to slowly drop it into the water 1ml at a time (BECAUSE GLASS WILL NOT MELT IN YOUR HAND) However, if you want to filter the concentrate use a .45um whatman filter and only do 1 ml at a time.
5. slowly add your BB/PS80/TNE mixture to your water 1 ml at a time, and after every ml you add put the stopper on the vile and shake vigerously. REMEMBER ONE ML AT A TIME. **THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT**
by the time you're done it should be milky white and perfect, with this method it won't clump or seperate to the bottom like it did with PEG. The TNE will stay milky and completely seperated and will go through a 30ga by 1/2" slin pin like pure water with no clogging and no pain at all!
Trust me you guys will love this!
Please note all credit for this info goes to Spydie at bolex.
And, if you wish to make it 100mg/ml, just up the ps80 to 4% and increase the BB to 12% and it should turn out milky white....
NYCEE said:
You know Spydies recipe at Bolex says he uses a glass dropper and just drops the solution into the bac water. I am still weary about this but it sounds interesting.
As for how much ps80, not sure, i get a little loose with it and just add an extra drop here or there. I will measure out how much next time and let you know. Should make some this weekend.
