Couldn't find the info

[Pupil2Prodigy]

I'm writing up some stuff in Word, developing a good game plan, trying to get things straight but I couldn't find what I needed on short/long ester transitions, figured I could cut down on injections by switching, if even for a week. Is it possible to finish with short esters to narrow the period of time before starting PCT? i.e, short/long/short

6 weeks
Testosterone Propionate/Trenbolone Acetate/Drostanolone Propionate @ 50mg - E.D

Test for Tren, Tren for mass, Masteron for cutting

UDCA @ 250mg 2x week - Liver protection
Cabergoline @ .5mg - 2x week - Lower prolactin
Aromasin @ 25mg - ED. - Anti-Estrogen

Aside from not running a T-Only cycle, any opinions/info/links are greatly appreciated or even a week by week consideration, thanks

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

As i understand you wish to start with Long ester and finish with SAME PRODUCT SHORT ESTER version ?
If you mean that yes it can be done

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

start short, go long, return short - only planning a 6 week cycle, need get off the ground quick

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

same products yes

 

[DADAWG]

start short, go long, return short - only planning a 6 week cycle, need get off the ground quick

dont use ANY long ester gear in a 6 week cycle , imo 6 weeks is to short period. if you use all short ester gear start pct about 3 days after last injection.

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

Understood, but the program outlined so far is sensible right?

 

[DADAWG]

Understood, but the program outlined so far is sensible right?

no orals = little need for liver protection .you dont list your steroid experience so i dont know if you really need 1050 total mg a week to grow. i still say even with short esters 8 weeks would be better.

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

Would you advocate proscar with this low range test and are there any products available to combat Masteron/Tren hairloss? I also haven't come across anything for general prostate health or protection. Doing my homework on a first cycle, disregarding the T-Only standard

 

[jonesfarm]

Propecia for the the hair loss and prostrate issues but it could limit your gains.
Proscar is same as propecia only propecia you can get in 1mg tabs instead of 5 mg with proscar

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

no mpb btw, just want to limit any hairloss/prostate problems

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

no orals = little need for liver protection .you dont list your steroid experience so i dont know if you really need 1050 total mg a week to grow. i still say even with short esters 8 weeks would be better.

I just pulled up some threads of persons using tren dosed as low as 25mg ED. - Couldn't I reduce this entire stack to 525mg week, 25mg all around ED. and still see great results? Or even 25 Tren/Mast/50 Test?

 

[DADAWG]

Would you advocate proscar with this low range test and are there any products available to combat Masteron/Tren hairloss? I also haven't come across anything for general prostate health or protection. Doing my homework on a first cycle, disregarding the T-Only standard

so you want to run ten on a 1st cycle. good luck , i dont have time to help everyone and your not listening.

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

I'm not listening? I responded to your suggestion. You just want me to run 5-600mg of test a week without any other consideration at all, it's silly really

 

[DADAWG]

I'm not listening? I responded to your suggestion. You just want me to run 5-600mg of test a week without any other consideration at all, it's silly really

a turd who has never ran steroids questioning people who have been in the game for decades , its silly really.

 

[KraviMan]

There's a reason why everyone recommends a T-only cycle as a first cycle. It's not because we want to limit your gains, it's because you have NO idea how Testosterone alone affects your body as of yet. Running multiple compounds (and strong ones at that) is very risky for a rookie as well as very difficult to determine where you're getting your side effects from. Don't rely on the consensus that outline the side effects of a given compound because everyone reacts differently.

With that said, to answer your question, you could just use a pre-made blend of these compounds (I believe they call it a Cut Stack?). You can dose whatever you want, but I'd recommend EOD and as DADAWG stated, run it for more than 6 weeks. Preferably 8 weeks if you can. Why would you want to run a long ester in that 6 week period though? It's not enough time to get any real result from it.

 

[JM750]

a turd who has never ran steroids questioning people who have been in the game for decades , its silly really.

This shit is getting old around here lately. I don't ever claim to know it all, but when I dont, I STFU and listen..... And I been in the game a long time.

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

a turd who has never ran steroids questioning people who have been in the game for decades , its silly really.

You're not the only person with decades of experience, it's all over the net. That's what I've used to pull this program together, it wasn't an arbitrary arrangement

 

[Pupil2Prodigy]

There's a reason why everyone recommends a T-only cycle as a first cycle. It's not because we want to limit your gains, it's because you have NO idea how Testosterone alone affects your body as of yet. Running multiple compounds (and strong ones at that) is very risky for a rookie as well as very difficult to determine where you're getting your side effects from. Don't rely on the consensus that outline the side effects of a given compound because everyone reacts differently.

With that said, to answer your question, you could just use a pre-made blend of these compounds (I believe they call it a Cut Stack?). You can dose whatever you want, but I'd recommend EOD and as DADAWG stated, run it for more than 6 weeks. Preferably 8 weeks if you can. Why would you want to run a long ester in that 6 week period though? It's not enough time to get any real result from it.

Yes, they are powerful, but note the doses considered, I don't intend on loading up on tren or anything. Nothing is written is stone - But from what I've read, aside from discerning the cause of sides, which you don't treat the cause, you treat the symptom, this stack would work very well when executed properly

 

[DADAWG]

Yes, they are powerful, but note the doses considered, I don't intend on loading up on tren or anything. Nothing is written is stone - But from what I've read, aside from discerning the cause of sides, which you don't treat the cause, you treat the symptom, this stack would work very well when executed properly

you knew that HERE at ology we wouldnt agree with that for a 1st cycle and then you get defensive when we dont agree. WTF is wrong with you , if you dont want advise then why post that shit. quit wasting our time.

 

[Strong Man]

Yes, they are powerful, but note the doses considered, I don't intend on loading up on tren or anything. Nothing is written is stone - But from what I've read, aside from discerning the cause of sides, which you don't treat the cause, you treat the symptom, this stack would work very well when executed properly

Tren is a steroid used by veterinarians on livestock to increase muscle growth and appetite and you want to put tren in your first cycle? Just run test and stop looking for a shortcut! Tren is 5 times more powerful then test and should not be used in a first cycle!