Couldn't find the info

I'm writing up some stuff in Word, developing a good game plan, trying to get things straight but I couldn't find what I needed on short/long ester transitions, figured I could cut down on injections by switching, if even for a week. Is it possible to finish with short esters to narrow the period of time before starting PCT? i.e, short/long/short

6 weeks
Testosterone Propionate/Trenbolone Acetate/Drostanolone Propionate @ 50mg - E.D

Test for Tren, Tren for mass, Masteron for cutting

UDCA @ 250mg 2x week - Liver protection
Cabergoline @ .5mg - 2x week - Lower prolactin
Aromasin @ 25mg - ED. - Anti-Estrogen

Aside from not running a T-Only cycle, any opinions/info/links are greatly appreciated or even a week by week consideration, thanks

it was in my post
 
I figured the drama wouldn't find its way here with that kind of heads up, wasn't looking to challenge anyone's experience or debate the standard, I just wanted advice on how to run the cycle I had in mind, responsibly
 
a turd who has never ran steroids questioning people who have been in the game for decades , its silly really.

He should be so lucky. He should be appreciative. I wish you where all up on my cycle thread with madd posts.
 
Aside from not running a T-Only cycle, any opinions/info/links are greatly appreciated, thanks

I gave notice

8 weeks
Testosterone Propionate/Trenbolone Acetate/Drostanolone Propionate @ 25mg - E.D

Test for Tren, Tren for mass, Masteron for cutting

Cabergoline @ .5mg - 2x week - Lower prolactin
Aromasin @ 25mg - ED. - Anti-Estrogen


I don't have mpb but to play it safe should I invest in n2 shampoo?
 
I figured the drama wouldn't find its way here with that kind of heads up, wasn't looking to challenge anyone's experience or debate the standard, I just wanted advice on how to run the cycle I had in mind, responsibly

Aside from the advice on sticking to basics for a first cycle, I believe DADAWG, SicVic, and I recommended pushing the length of the cycle closer to 8-15 weeks. Like I said though, we're just advising you to stick to basics because we don't want you to fuck yourself up. Tren is a VERY powerful compound if not the most powerful injectable AAS, and no one here will ever tell a rookie to use that in their first 2-3 cycles.

You could get away with EOD injections if you like. Also, what's post cycle therapy (pct) like? You should probably use some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as well.
 
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This shit is getting old around here lately. I don't ever claim to know it all, but when I dont, I STFU and listen..... And I been in the game a long time.

i hear ya, i mean damn this shit is a laugh a min bro. i've read the stickies, spend hours every week reading, talk to buddies with experience, have cycled myself and still listen when others with experience talk. this shit ain't a fuckin game. the fact that so many are willing to take the time to help others for nothing is huge and then you spit in their face wtf is wrong with people?
 
I wholly understand the concerns but I am confident in the execution of a well laid out plan. I am still learning obviously, nothing is written in stone. But I am seriously considering this cycle and it is important that my thread and others like it stay on task or guesswork would put persons like myself at greater risk. Thank you.
 
Your thread not "staying on task" isn't putting you at risk...your idea of using test/tren/mast for a first cycle is what's putting you at risk.

No one here is going to recommend 6 weeks of test/tren/mast for your first cycle.
 
Your thread not "staying on task" isn't putting you at risk...your idea of using test/tren/mast for a first cycle is what's putting you at risk.

No one here is going to recommend 6 weeks of test/tren/mast for your first cycle.

I am not seeking gear recommendations, I am simply asking for first hand knowledge with the various preventative tasks and conclusively effective products
 
Execution doesn't mean shit when you fuck up your 18 year old zyzz loving internal organs, bone structure and natural test levels.

This cycle is like losing your virginity to miss America at 14 and wonder why sex isn't the same years down the road. Why are you so against test only cycle?
 
Execution doesn't mean shit when you fuck up your 18 year old zyzz loving internal organs, bone structure and natural test levels.

This cycle is like losing your virginity to miss America at 14 and wonder why sex isn't the same years down the road. Why are you so against test only cycle?

I'm nearing 25
 
I am not seeking gear recommendations, I am simply asking for first hand knowledge of the various preventative tasks and conclusively effective products

I don't have mpb but to play it safe, are there any effective hair loss preventions with Dht-based gear like Masteron?
 
I've wanted to cycle since I was 17, I've been lifting since I was 14, a competitive runner and mountaineer as a child, I want to be bigger, I want to be stronger. As far as T goes I am opposed to the typical dosing, I was immediately turned off by the likelihood of it partially aromatizing even with the aid of great products and a watchful eye having it become a regular problem. I'd rather low dose the T and run renown dht-based andros & anabolics
 
I gave notice

8 weeks
Testosterone Propionate/Trenbolone Acetate/Drostanolone Propionate @ 25mg - E.D

Test for Tren, Tren for mass, Masteron for cutting

Cabergoline @ .5mg - 2x week - Lower prolactin
Aromasin @ 25mg - ED. - Anti-Estrogen


I don't have mpb but to play it safe should I invest in n2 shampoo?
That Cycle is not OK , the weekly dose is not enough to create full potential results. Also,
The weekly does is enough to shut you down and fuck your system.
What is the point of doing that, you will have side effects for 2-3 kg gains ?
Everything have method of doing, if you wanna do tren , do it proper
But since its your first cycle , why you dont do a test only cycle and get 20 lbs in 14 weeks ??????
 
That Cycle is not OK , the weekly dose is not enough to create full potential results. Also,
The weekly does is enough to shut you down and fuck your system.
What is the point of doing that, you will have side effects for 2-3 kg gains ?
Everything have method of doing, if you wanna do tren , do it proper
But since its your first cycle , why you dont do a test only cycle and get 20 lbs in 14 weeks ??????

As far as T goes I am opposed to the typical dosing, I was immediately turned off by the likelihood of it partially aromatizing even with the aid of great products and a watchful eye having it become a regular problem. I'd rather low dose the T and run renown dht-based andros & anabolics
 
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