Cutting after pct. any ideas

[blade1989]

I just got done with nolva/clomid pct of 4 weeks.. im planning to cut, should i slowly start reducing calories.. i have clen on hand which im not planning to take until im done with the blood work..

Btw i did test only cycle for 12 weeks..

i need to reduce fat before i start my dream bulk of test/deca/dbol.. i have a lot of time on my hands before i start the next cycle.. so was planning to go natural for atleast 2-3 weeks on a cut, get my blood work then cut with clen for another 8-10 weeks..

 

[blade1989]

bump

 

[Megatron28]

I would suggest waiting. Being in a caloric deficit is HPTA suppressive. By that I mean it will lower natural testosterone levels. You just spent 4 weeks trying to get yours turned back on again. I would wait until after you get blood work to consider a cut.

 

[soldier74]

Second this^^^

 

[tx045]

What did you accomplish/what we're your goals w your previous cycle

 

[Milton]

Did the advice herein work out for you?

 

[Ajinkya]

Did the advice herein work out for you?

i did what you guys said.. i didnt go on a cut.. now my pct is over, i will wait for 2-3 weeks get my blood test and then start with a cut

 

[Ajinkya]

What did you accomplish/what we're your goals w your previous cycle

tbh my last cycle was a bust.. couldnt control my e2 and that led to many things.. i gained very little but i kept what i gained.. its not noticeable to anyone except me.. lesson learnt.. high dose does not mean more gains.. my second cycle will be

300-350 sust pw
300 deca pw
caber 0.5 e3d
aromasin 12.5 eod

 

[bigben66]

tbh my last cycle was a bust.. couldnt control my e2 and that led to many things.. i gained very little but i kept what i gained.. its not noticeable to anyone except me.. lesson learnt.. high dose does not mean more gains.. my second cycle will be

300-350 sust pw
300 deca pw
caber 0.5 e3d
aromasin 12.5 eod

Not a strong cycle plan in my opinion.

If I was going to shut myself down, I'd do so for nothing less than 500mg of Test.

If I was going to run Deca for mass gain - I'd run it at higher than 300mg - probably around 500mg +

You're playing around with suppression for very little reward at those planned doses.

Exemestane should be dosed daily.

 

[Ajinkya]

Not a strong cycle plan in my opinion.

If I was going to shut myself down, I'd do so for nothing less than 500mg of Test.

If I was going to run Deca for mass gain - I'd run it at higher than 300mg - probably around 500mg +

You're playing around with suppression for very little reward at those planned doses.

Exemestane should be dosed daily.

??? @bigben i used your advice to go low on doses and extend the cycle
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/687394-test-deca-final-gtg.html

 

[bigben66]

??? @bigben i used your advice to go low on doses and extend the cycle
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/687394-test-deca-final-gtg.html

Yes, you've extended the cycle - and DROPPED the Test dosage from 500mg...

As for the Deca, it's a low dose, it might be ok for you, but I take 250mg weekly just for medicinal purposes off cycle.

But I understand you wanting to be conservative.

 

[Ajinkya]

Yes, you've extended the cycle - and DROPPED the Test dosage from 500mg...

As for the Deca, it's a low dose, it might be ok for you, but I take 250mg weekly just for medicinal purposes off cycle.

But I understand you wanting to be conservative.

This is my first time with deca.. so thats why ive kept it at a lower dose.. i hope this cycle is good

 

[anzel]

You shouldn't cut so soon actually. You should continue to run maintenance for 2 - 3 months and make sure you can hold some gains first. Then cut.
Bulk
Maintenance
Cut
Maintenance
Repeat if needed

 

[Ajinkya]

You shouldn't cut so soon actually. You should continue to run maintenance for 2 - 3 months and make sure you can hold some gains first. Then cut.
Bulk
Maintenance
Cut
Maintenance
Repeat if needed

I agree, but theres very little muscle that ive gained.. so i guess cutting wont make much of a difference

 

[Megatron28]

I agree, but theres very little muscle that ive gained.. so i guess cutting wont make much of a difference

What about the muscle you had pre-cycle? Don't you want to keep that too?

 

[Megatron28]

??? @bigben i used your advice to go low on doses and extend the cycle
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/687394-test-deca-final-gtg.html

Ben was suggesting simplifying the cycle be running fewer compounds; not low doses in that thread.

 

[bigben66]

I agree, but theres very little muscle that ive gained.. so i guess cutting wont make much of a difference

You seem to be yoyo-ing for no good reason....

It all comes down to this.... what are your long term goals?

You'll find that constantly/bulking/cutting/bulking/cutting will get you nowhere fast - even the pros don't do mad dirty bulks anymore, they simply raise their cals to a reasonable surplus and change their AAS accordingly.

If your goal lets say, was to add 20lbs of LMM - why are you cutting?
On the flipside, if your goal is to get down to around 10% bf - then why bother even taking gear? You could do that with diet and training.

I recommend sitting down, working out a long term goal, and then plotting short term objectives to get you there.

 

[tx045]

You shouldn't cut so soon actually. You should continue to run maintenance for 2 - 3 months and make sure you can hold some gains first. Then cut.
Bulk
Maintenance
Cut
Maintenance
Repeat if needed

I asked my previous question because my next statement was going to be exactly what anzel replied...Nailed it

 

[Ajinkya]

What about the muscle you had pre-cycle? Don't you want to keep that too?

Yes, agreed.. im going to eat in surplus for 2-3 months more then do a mini cut before starting fresh.. will try to gain atleast 5-10 lbs

 

[Ajinkya]

You seem to be yoyo-ing for no good reason....

It all comes down to this.... what are your long term goals?

You'll find that constantly/bulking/cutting/bulking/cutting will get you nowhere fast - even the pros don't do mad dirty bulks anymore, they simply raise their cals to a reasonable surplus and change their AAS accordingly.

If your goal lets say, was to add 20lbs of LMM - why are you cutting?
On the flipside, if your goal is to get down to around 10% bf - then why bother even taking gear? You could do that with diet and training.

I recommend sitting down, working out a long term goal, and then plotting short term objectives to get you there.

i have a goal set in my head, and i will reach there, but right now im just stuck between eating too much and feeling fat maybe i'll just gain more another 14-18 weeks.. rather than cutting