Cutting Cycle Questions

[DieselFreak]

Have a few questions about proper dosing, post cycle therapy (pct) and proper Aromatase inhibitor (AI).

I've done three bulking cycles that have been 12 weeks in duration each. They consisted of 500-600mg of Test E weekly. post cycle therapy (pct) consisted of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast and Nolva. Got great results each time in gaining size and strength. I started cutting naturally about 8 weeks ago and am down about 30lbs. Doing45 minutes of cardio 6 days a week, elliptical, stairmaster, treadmill, ect. Along with 45 minute high intensity weight sessions with minimal rest periods and a strict low carb diet with a few hi carb cycle days.

The cycle I want to do consists of :

20ml, 200mg Tren Enanthate

20ml, 100mg test Prop

50 x 25mg Winni Tabs

I want to strictly retain muscle and cut fat. I was thinking of dosing this over an 8 week span. According to my research I need 4 injections per week i'd prefer less if possible.
Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun

Still unsure of how to space it. Picked up the test prop to avoid the sexual side effects of the tren. I've also considered Dosinex... Any suggestions would be appreciated. I also am curious how and what to use for post cycle therapy (pct)? Clomid/Nolva combo, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during/after or both? I want to take any and all precautions to ensure a quick recovery and I want to try to avoid all libido side effects.

Again looking for some advice and any opinions so I can get whatever else I need and get rolling. Thanks in advance!

 

[darkside06]

hey, welcome to ology.

First thing.....you only have enough gear for about 5 weeks. Also, if you're running Test Prop, you really should run Tren Ace, not Tren enth. Enth is a long estherand will stay in your system well after you're last test shot and it will take about 2 weeks before it even kicks in. Test prop/Tren Ace is a great cycle but like i mentioned, you don't have enough gear.

 

[DieselFreak]

I was originally thinking I had enough to do 8 weeks but upon doing more research I noticed exactly what you said... Wanted some opinions so I knew what I researched was correct. I was planning on using the winni as a jump start at the beginning of the cycle and then cutting it out after I ran out of tabs with a 50mg per day dose split into 2x. I picked up the tren e because of the longer half life originally because I wanted to avoid daily or every other day injections but it looks like that's the way it's going to be regardless. Thanks again for the post and info

 

[Four1Thr33]

The pct is up to u. There's alot of choices

Get prami or caber for prolactin
Get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I use adex
Hcg durring and a blast is good
And my pct is clomid and nolva

 

[darkside06]

I was originally thinking I had enough to do 8 weeks but upon doing more research I noticed exactly what you said... Wanted some opinions so I knew what I researched was correct. I was planning on using the winni as a jump start at the beginning of the cycle and then cutting it out after I ran out of tabs with a 50mg per day dose split into 2x. I picked up the tren e because of the longer half life originally because I wanted to avoid daily or every other day injections but it looks like that's the way it's going to be regardless. Thanks again for the post and info

Test Prop and Tren Ace, both at 100mg EOD will be a great cycle.

 

[Teutonic]

Cut s are made in kitchen.......

 

[DieselFreak]

I'm not particularly sensitive to gyno, or other sides. Or atleast with basic dbol tabs and 600mg of Test E per week I wasn't. My diet is pretty dialed in, I know how import that is. I intend to contact 3J for some more guidance in that department. So darkside, you suggest to ditch the Tren E I have now and just get the Tren Ace? I suppose it'll simplify the poke schedule.... My main goal with this cycle is to remove as much of the stored Sub Q fat as I can, Try to retain muscle and get that really vascular hard look. It's coming along nicely so far with the natural approach... Any other suggestions would be great. Thanks!

 

[Shrugs]

Winny? Unless you're gonna compete on stage for a competition drop the Winstrol (winny). It will only suck out water and make your joints sore as fuck. As soon as the Winstrol (winny) is done the little water you lost will come back. It is for pre contest only. Also, not sure how long it's been since your last cycle but time on PLUS pct equals time off. In your case from what you posted that would be 16 weeks off with proper blood test before you even think about a first go with Tren. Also the Tren E will be fine if you run the Prop for two weeks after Tren runs out. And yes you need more gear. Make sure you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) ON HAND since it's your first time with these products. And PCT will begin sooner after Prop than Test E.

 

[Shrugs]

You will also need to invest in some Prami or caber. I prefer Prami but some like Caber. I stay away from Caber due to it's cardiovascular side effects and possible valve damage. Do a little research on both and pick one. Prami has been known to make people feel like shit but I'd rather feel a little queesy than having heart issues and damage. Just somethin to think about....

 

[*FLEX*]

Since you already have the Tren E, why not drop the Prop and get Test E? You'd only pin Mon and Thurs then.

FLEX