Cutting cycle

[MrKJ]

Hey there,


Im new to this board, but not to roids. Great to see theres a good forum going on - Ive found it frustrating to ask advice from the same ppl who sell the stuff, since Im not sure about their intentions.

Anyways, Im 25, done 4 Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) cycles (Deca/D-bol and Clen/Cytomel), and Im 5'11 and currently at 195 lbs, 10%bf. Im having a terrible time loosing the last lbs of fat to get really ripped around my hips and mid stomach, since I didnt use anti-E's on my first two cycles. Yep, bummer, but I learned...

So, Im considering doing this for a low side-effects (mostly scared of the e), effective 6-week cutting cycle. Hoping you guys might have some input:

Primo: 200/200/300/300/200/200
Winny: 50mg eod
Cytomel: the 5 day interval pyramid going from 25-100 and back in 40 days
Clen: As much as I can for 3 weeks, then an ECA stack

Nolvadex: 10 mg/day
And clomid to finish: 100/50/50 for 3 weeks after.

Gonna go for a 1500 cals, 150 g of protein/day diet. It migth cost some mass, but I suppose I have to accept that. It hurts getting below 10%bf...

I know I should prob add some test, but since I want to avoid the E probs, Im kinda scared about that.

What do you guys think?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Welcome to Steroidology bro !!

IMO, you dosages of both the Primo & Winstrol (winny) are kinda low, but only you know whats gonna work for you. Hopefully you have access to real Primo, that shit is faked more than anything else out there, and damn good fakes at that !!

Probably one of the best cutting stacks would have to be Test prop, Tren & Winstrol (winny). As far as you not wanting to do test because of the estrogen conversions, I've got one word for you "anti-aromatase". With Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin you can essentialy block the conversion to estrogen, thereby eliminating all estrogen related sides, just some food for thought.

The other thing I don't like is the amount of protein you are planning on taking, not NEARLY enough. You are going to lose muscle mass , and probably lots of it. Up you protein intake to 1.5 grams per pound of body weight. In your case I'd shoot for 300 grams a day.

I also don't see any cardio in your plan, hopefully you just forgot to add that into the post.

 

[MrKJ]

Thx bro!

I believe my supplier is a pretty honest guy, but theres of course no knowing if he himself is getting the fake stuff without knowing... The rather low doses are considering its the first time I use these drugs, but Im definately open to increasing the doses, if the results increase equally. As for the anti-aromatase, I had some femara way back but cant get it again. The arimidex is just increcibly expensive and kinda out of reach for me atm. I can get nolvadex, proviron and cytadren at reasonable prices, but will they do the job? I can get prop, but I cant get tren. Tren's a nandrolone ester, right? Only nandrolone esters I can get is deca and dynabolon.

I hear you with the protein, but 300 g of protein is 1200 cals, and I cant do my job well on a keto-diet, so wouldnt I by wasting time and money by not doing some serious restricting on a rather short cycle? Looks to me like a choice of muscle or fat right now... Dammit...

The cardio is there. Its all in a days work

 

[jcp2]

I would up the primo, or swithc it out with eq, since it is more bang for your buck. I would want to take in more than 150g of protein if i were you. Eq at 600mg a week and Winstrol (winny) should be a good cycle. but i would add a little test in their. Maybe something like this

eq 400-600 1-10
prop 100mg eod 1-12
winny 50mg eod 7-12

 

[panteracfh]

well get some prop, and if you want to do tren, just get some kits and make your own....

 

[JohnnyB]

Bro with weigh training and cardio at your weight I'd say 3000-2500 calories would be ok, but you'd know best. If your primo is legit keep at the same dose all the way through 300-400mg or 1 amp eod with your Winstrol (winny) that'll give you 350mg a week.

Remember that your calorie intake and cardio are the 2 most importants part of a cutting cycle, the drugs are just aids.

JohnnyB