Cutting prop with EQ question

[Logic101]

Hey everyone, most of the vets on here know that cutting test prop with different compound will reduce injection site pain. My question is about what is actually happening when you cut prop with EQ specifically? Is it less painful because the prop ester is mixing with the EQ ester and actually releasing more slowly? Any chemists in the house?

If this is in fact what is happening it is to a certain extent defeating the purpose of using prop. I may be way off base here so if someone can enlighten me in as close to a scientific way as possible it would be very helpful.

If there is already a sticky or thread answering this question just point me in the right direction. Thanks

 

[Logic101]

Interesting, I thought this type of question would have been asked and answered before.

Answers don't have to be in depth and technical. I just want to avoid answers that involve guess work and speculation.

Anybody?

 

[Harnold]

prop isn't that bad man, don't over think it, just do it. you obviously won't be shooting eq as often as prop, but mix it when they do fall on the same day. frequent prop pins are bad enough, whether it was anything pinned that often. just my 2cnts.

 

[Logic101]

It's not a matter of over thinking it. There are many times when I don't cut prop with anything. It just depends on the particular pain level of the batch I happen to be running at the time. When I do cut it EQ is the method I usually use.

This question is not affecting my day to day habits. It's more a matter of educational interest. Some may not care, I personally would find the answer interesting.

Thanks for the reply though

 

[MN87]

I don't have any constructive feedback to your question, but prop pain makes me wonder how people can stomach Test suspension. I mean if you have to pin 3x a day and they all leave you feeling sore... damn man your entire body will be mush before you know it.

 

[sniper8988]

never pinned prop solely but had some real painful sust before, kinda curious what causes it to be less painful also. i know when i mixed sust/deca the pain was virtually eliminated.

 

[Harnold]

never pinned prop solely but had some real painful sust before, kinda curious what causes it to be less painful also. i know when i mixed sust/deca the pain was virtually eliminated.

funny you should mention sustanon as it gives me the sustanon strut every time I inject it.....lol suspension burns like hell but I don't get much pip from it.

 

[Logic101]

Agreed on the suspension. Prop is one of my favorite compounds for sure but it's always been a love hate relationship...LOL

I don't have any constructive feedback to your question, but prop pain makes me wonder how people can stomach Test suspension. I mean if you have to pin 3x a day and they all leave you feeling sore... damn man your entire body will be mush before you know it.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hey everyone, most of the vets on here know that cutting test prop with different compound will reduce injection site pain. My question is about what is actually happening when you cut prop with EQ specifically? Is it less painful because the prop ester is mixing with the EQ ester and actually releasing more slowly? Any chemists in the house?

If this is in fact what is happening it is to a certain extent defeating the purpose of using prop. I may be way off base here so if someone can enlighten me in as close to a scientific way as possible it would be very helpful.

If there is already a sticky or thread answering this question just point me in the right direction. Thanks

esters don't mix
your just diluting the amount of prop to oil . and if its the prop causeing pain then thats why it helps.
man up and pin the prop.
There should be no need to cut gear unless its super strong like 400mg/ml unless you already knwo your body reacts to "the prop ester" or make up of the gear (BA and BB) in a way you do not like..

its (in my op) stupid to cut prop with eq.
your wasing your EQ unless your using it for 18+ weeks and at 600mg+ ew.
I could understand cutting it with teste or just straight steril oil.

Prop is not hurting because it is being released fast, that IS NOT why.
It has nothing to do with the fact its releasing faster then say, Teste.
people get pain with testE also.

hope that helps.

Also I personally feel EQ is a waste of money regardless.
Teste + an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) would cost less and bring same or more gains.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I don't have any constructive feedback to your question, but prop pain makes me wonder how people can stomach Test suspension. I mean if you have to pin 3x a day and they all leave you feeling sore... damn man your entire body will be mush before you know it.

I think prop is also kind of dumb to use when we have teste or cyp out there.
I mean I can understand if you needed it out of system fast like if you were being tested or something of that sort. But to make a cycle around it when you can pin teste 1-2X a week, it just doesnt make sense to me, other than people like to pin themselves and the placebo of that is "more gains?? Or even that the 20mg more test per ml mans a crap? Or that some think testprop will give you less water retention?
I think an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with TestE should be used anyway so for me there is still no valid points to use prop over teste or cyp or shit even sust.
Just my op. Dont get mad at me prop lovers! lol


anyway Im with you on the suspen also.

 

[Logic101]

"Esters don't mix". That's what I wanted to know, thanks man!

This placebo affect has lasted along time for me,lol... because I always seem to get better results with prop( I agree that there should be no difference though) . I still use test e and c it just depends on what type of cycle I'm running.

As for adding anything to the prop, I only cut it if it is a particularly painful batch/brand(I've had some super strong stuff). There are many times I don't add anything to it. I don't waste the EQ. If it's in the cycle and I need to, I'll use it to cut the prop.

What in your opinion is the best sterile oil to use?

esters don't mix
your just diluting the amount of prop to oil . and if its the prop causeing pain then thats why it helps.
man up and pin the prop.
There should be no need to cut gear unless its super strong like 400mg/ml unless you already knwo your body reacts to "the prop ester" or make up of the gear (BA and BB) in a way you do not like..

its (in my op) stupid to cut prop with eq.
your wasing your EQ unless your using it for 18+ weeks and at 600mg+ ew.
I could understand cutting it with teste or just straight steril oil.

Prop is not hurting because it is being released fast, that IS NOT why.
It has nothing to do with the fact its releasing faster then say, Teste.
people get pain with testE also.

hope that helps.

Also I personally feel EQ is a waste of money regardless.
Teste + an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) would cost less and bring same or more gains.

 

[MN87]

I think prop is also kind of dumb to use when we have teste or cyp out there.
I mean I can understand if you needed it out of system fast like if you were being tested or something of that sort. But to make a cycle around it when you can pin teste 1-2X a week, it just doesnt make sense to me, other than people like to pin themselves and the placebo of that is "more gains?? Or even that the 20mg more test per ml mans a crap? Or that some think testprop will give you less water retention?
I think an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with TestE should be used anyway so for me there is still no valid points to use prop over teste or cyp or shit even sust.
Just my op. Dont get mad at me prop lovers! lol


anyway Im with you on the suspen also.

Prop appeals to me because it's out fast, which is nice not only for testing but I also like how it simplifies PCT. Plus I like how it kicks in a whole lot faster than E and Cyp... in fact I'm the reverse of you, I don't see why anyone would prefer E or cyp over prop... I'm the biggest bitch in the world but even so the injections really don't bother me in the slightest.

But yeah I bloat like crazy on prop lol, 'minimal water retention' is such nonsense

 

[misterp]

agree with eq at 600mg but 16weeks is fine to run
ive felt the difference when shooting eq twice a week i mixed the tren a with it and pain was a lot less
amazing when the rusty tren mixes through and seperates in the syringe with eq and tren looks soo good

prop just go for 50mg everyday instead of 100mg eod it will be less painful and site will 'recover' for repeat jab
i beleive eq is amazing for cutting if can control appetite and the vascularity on it beautiful