cycle advice eq sust dbol tren ace

[highline]

New to this forum stuff downloaded books and a few more experienced friends and my dad have always been my go to, read the stickys and felt like this was the best place for this post sorry if I was wrong. I'm 25 5'10 204lbs 13%BF. this'll be my 5th cycle, the eq and tren ace are both new to me. funny thing is I got most of the gear from my younger brother who was talked out of a similar cycle by guys on this page. Here's what I was thinking.

WEEK 1-6: Sust-750mg (pinned eod) EQ-400mg(pinned e3d) dbol-50mg(ed)

WEEK 6-12 Sust-750mg (pinned eod) EQ-400mg (pinnede3d) tren
ace-400mg (pinnedeod) I'll be doing a 3ml pin e3d the whole time to have a couple breaks.

Also gonna run arimidex at 1 mg eod which has seemed to be just right for me in the past. I understand the eod method will change the total dosage eow. I've heard to run the test at a much lower dose with the tren but didn't think it would be a good idea dropping it so much like that before the actual conclusion of the cycle. I considered adding another two weeks at the end with all the same dosage but not sure.

 

[halfwit]

One new compound at a time. Tossing in multiple things at once makes it very difficult to pinpoint what went wrong, and often means pulling the plug on everything.

Now just a few questions for you:

1. Why the EQ? Do you have problems with appetite? The dose and length aren't ideal for that compound either. Boldenone Undecyclinate is a very long estered hormone that takes significant time to build up in the blood stream.

2. Do you have experience with 19-nors and understand the risks as well as how to manage/reduce them? Tren is a different animal altogether, and deserves a great deal of respect. It can wreck you, or build you - the difference being understanding what you're getting into. Six weeks is a terrible waste IMHO of tren, and coming off dbol (estradiol bomb) right before starting it really means you had better have your AI dosed in perfectly.

3. 1mg EOD of adex is a TON! Yes, it *might* be adequate for dbol + higher dose of test, but unless you have blood work showing you this, I'd rethink your strategy. Have you pulled bloods on that dose?

 

[highline]

I believe this is how to reply to halfwit, not very good at this online stuff. I'm just looking for solid lean gains I've never tried the eq and it sounded appealing. Seems like the dosage and time ran varies a lot from person to person with both eq and tren. i thought running the two this way would be better since I'm new to them. I've done two DECA cycles ive read mass amounts on tren, its something I've wanted to try for about 3 years, as I said I was considering to run it and the sust an additional 2 weeks, better you think? Would you suggest dropping the dbol? or maybe starting it with the tren instead of the eq? or dropping the eq and starting all 3 together? the adex recommendations varie drastically also, the way I always ran has kept me from getting tits and its a big concern for me because my dad's had to have the surgery. I understand what I'm getting myself into with tren. I feel like I'm finally prepared. What's your opinion on running the test at a lower dose than the tren?

 

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Now im considering saving the eq and just running the sust, tren ace and dbol. Stopping the dbol after 6 and running the sust and tren for a total of ten weeks. Just curious on some opinions of the dosage for the sust and tren.

 

[halfwit]

Diet is going to dictate results more than anything, but as this is your first dance with tren, I'd do this:

1-12: Sustanon (whatever dose you're comfortable with) EOD. The key with doses here is that the testosterone will aromatize, which is obviously why you're going to be taking an AI. If you're going to stick with 750mg/wk, I'd probably stick with 0.5mg EOD with the adex and get a blood test in 4-5 weeks to be sure this is a proper dose.

1-10: Tren Acetate 50-75mg ED (or the equivalent in EOD) and pick up pramipexole/caber. Estradiol control is the most important part of this equation as high estradiol can drive up prolactin, which will make life not-so-fun. This is where the prami/caber come into play, as they're dopamine agonists, which drive prolactin back down.

That's literally all I would run this time. You can experiment with tren doses by SLOWLY bringing them up, but give it about three weeks for the initial reaction, then you want to give it about a week or so after that to determine if you're at a safe dose or not. Tren sneaks up on you, so if you don't feel anything at first, be patient. Far too many think it's not enough, then BAM! they're in trouble.

This is pretty much how I and many others get our feet wet with tren. It keeps the variables at a minimum, and allows you to get a true feeling for just how you react to the hormones. If you start to notice less firm erections, time to start the dopamine agonists and reevaluate AI use. I believe dosing protocols are in the FAQ stickies, but 0.25mg EOD of prami, before bed, with a small meal is a good starting point.

I think that about covers it, PCT will be the usual, and if you have any more questions - feel free to ask.

 

[Teutonic]

For what s it worth that s as comprehensible and irrefutable an answer and justification of the answer u could pray for...I know my place..it s way back after some HW types.

I will say...tren s a whole new game..start low and stay there this time. Read Soldiers thread...I begged him to go in low and gauge the benefit/side effect ratio. I love it but I m way to MENTAL to take it when under duress, so have ur life squared away or tren could skew not just your bloodwork...

Enjoy.