Cycle advice please gents!!

[b0mb]

Hi guys.

Well ive started a sus250 cycle and m1t cycle. 3 weeks into it and the sus hasnt kicked in yet (i know it usually takes 4-5weeks)

27 years old
Male
Starting weight was 99kg - now @ 107kg
height 180cm


Im taking 2ml of sus a week - monday and thursday 1ml each day. Now i know im not getting maximum benifits from the short esters but this was the easiest way of doing it, ive done a cycle of test e before but the gear was bunk so little to no gains at all.

Now my question is, i got another 10ml of Sus - was thinking of taking 3 ml a week shot Monday, Wednesday and Friday... 1ml ech day - what are your thoughts or how would this be best run???? Or do you think just keep it at the 2ml a week and hold onto the sus for another cycle, cheers lads... i just want to bulk up nicely and dont want this cycle to be a waste and come out only a few kg up... So thats why was wanting to increase the dose and more frequently but if i do the Monday/Wend/Friday. im still missing out on the Sat/Sun so its like 2 days untill next shot, will this still work?

Open to any suggestions/advice. Trying to bulk up as much as possible.

 

[Wormwood]

Hi guys.

Well ive started a sus250 cycle and m1t cycle. 3 weeks into it and the sus hasnt kicked in yet (i know it usually takes 4-5weeks)

27 years old
Male
Starting weight was 99kg - now @ 107kg
height 180cm


Im taking 2ml of sus a week - monday and thursday 1ml each day. Now i know im not getting maximum benifits from the short esters but this was the easiest way of doing it, ive done a cycle of test e before but the gear was bunk so little to no gains at all.

Now my question is, i got another 10ml of Sus - was thinking of taking 3 ml a week shot Monday, Wednesday and Friday... 1ml ech day - what are your thoughts or how would this be best run???? Or do you think just keep it at the 2ml a week and hold onto the sus for another cycle, cheers lads... i just want to bulk up nicely and dont want this cycle to be a waste and come out only a few kg up... So thats why was wanting to increase the dose and more frequently but if i do the Monday/Wend/Friday. im still missing out on the Sat/Sun so its like 2 days untill next shot, will this still work?

Open to any suggestions/advice. Trying to bulk up as much as possible.

Have you cycled before?

 

[b0mb]

Like i said, i did Test E before and it was bunk stuff, didnt see much gains.... very under dosed gear. So i guess you can say YES but on under dosed gear..

 

[Wormwood]

I would stick to 500mg's a week then. that should be plenty, just make sure that your diet is in check and that you are eating the right foods, macros, and enough of them to feed a small army and you should explode. 750 seems a bit much. What do you have lined up for PCT?

I, personally, would pin EOD as well.

 

[b0mb]

Thanks for your help mate, i hope i explode too! I know your probably gonna recommend clomid or clomid and nolva but i could only get nolva. So nolva it is along with some ATD powder.

Getting around 3500-4000 cals a day, 200g protein.. im eating like an animal !

 

[Wormwood]

I think you'll be okay with Nolva only.

I'd go something like 40/40/20/20/20.

Enjoy your cycle!

 

[b0mb]

If i was to go with EOD , how would you do it then, half a ml every 2nd day? i just thought if i was gonna go EOD i would need atleast 1ml EOD?

Appreciate your help and advice mate

 

[Wormwood]

Yeah it'd be a little more difficult to measure out but I think the more stable blood levels would be worth it.

Mathematically it works out to .56 ML's EOD. Just measure the best you can.

 

[Teutonic]

So your lile 224..or so..I d go for it... take full advantage of the prop ester..which is ideally pinned e o d.
A subtle differance 4 sure but...yet as you indicated you want the most of the cycle..jeez I sound like a pusher..that would maximize it.

 

[b0mb]

Ok so what would you recommend :

Mon/Wens/Friday (1ml ech day) OR
Mon/Wens/Friday/Sunday (3ml split into these 4 days)

Cheers guys

 

[Wormwood]

Just pin every other day....whatever the day is

for example Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun/Tues/Thurs/Sat/Mon/Wed

.56 ML's each pin

 

[b0mb]

ok sounds good. will start doing it this week cheers

 

[Italiano SPO]

Ok so what would you recommend :

Mon/Wens/Friday (1ml ech day) OR
Mon/Wens/Friday/Sunday (3ml split into these 4 days)

Cheers guys

This is not EOD. Pin exactly EOD to take full advantage of the short esters as Teutonic mentioned. You don't have to sit and rack your brain figuring it out to the exact dosage. Make it simple and just shoot 250mg EOD. It's close enough to 750mg EW. I'm not a big fan of nolva for post cycle therapy (pct). I'd use Clomid at 50mg ED for 3-4 weeks, starting on the 18th day after your last jab.

 

[b0mb]

I meant Mon/Wens/Friday/Sun/Tues/Thurs/Sat which is EOD. Bit hard having 250mg EOD when i wont have enough as i mentioned and also said i cant get clomid

 

[Italiano SPO]

I meant Mon/Wens/Friday/Sun/Tues/Thurs/Sat which is EOD. Bit hard having 250mg EOD when i wont have enough as i mentioned and also said i cant get clomid

Yeah, maybe worth figuring it a little more then like 3/4 ml EOD then. I didn't catch that you couldn't get clomid. RUI has the liquid stuff and they are a sponor for this site. Their banner is on top. Also, you didn't mention an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Make sure to obtain Aromasin and/or Letrozole and run it ED throughout your cycle. Aromasin can be dosed at 12.5mg ED and adjust as needed. Letro should be kept on hand in case you need it. If you need it, you'll know. If you have to go over 25mg ED of Aromasin and it's not keeping gyno at bay, you'll need to move to Letro. That's why it's always good to keep in on hand so it's there in the event you need it.

 

[Teutonic]

I meant Mon/Wens/Friday/Sun/Tues/Thurs/Sat which is EOD. Bit hard having 250mg EOD when i wont have enough as i mentioned and also said i cant get clomid

..then you do what you can with you can get..
..I d keep as easy to load proportions as possible....6 of a cc is easy to read..and if you come up 1/2 week short..irrelevant..the differance between .56 and .69 is .04...jeez..what s that in mgs ???
If you pay as close attention to your diet/training/rest as your gear doses...you ll go far my man.

 

[Wormwood]

..then you do what you can with you can get..
..I d keep as easy to load proportions as possible....6 of a cc is easy to read..and if you come up 1/2 week short..irrelevant..the differance between .56 and .69 is .04...jeez..what s that in mgs ???
If you pay as close attention to your diet/training/rest as your gear doses...you ll go far my man.

A little over 100mg's a week difference

 

[Teutonic]

Correct...my point was...nevermind..u r spot on.

 

[Wormwood]

Correct...my point was...nevermind..u r spot on.

Yeah I know. Wasn't trying to be a smartass or anything. Just throwing it out there.

 

[b0mb]

Oh and i cannot get any letro or arom ... Only got nolva on hand and some ATD.

So .8 ml EOD for the remainding 7 weeks is what its gonna be... That works out spot on to the gear i got left.