Cycle Mistakes....

My first cycle I did when I was too young. I did t400. Twice a week @ 75ml in the glutes. Oh the pain... I least had arimidex and nolva+clomid for afterwards. That was too many shots to the glutes. That sucked but I did it lol
 
Not eating enough was a big one for me. I was very overweight when I started working out so even after I got in good shape and built some solid muscle the fear of getting fat again held me back from eating enough my first several cycles. Live and learn I suppose.
 
Where do I start? :bash:

My first cycle was pretty much shit.
Didnt eat enough
Didnt aspirate
Injected sub q accidentally (hurt like hell for a week)
No Aromatase inhibitor (AI) :bash:
Used 2 22 gauge needles for the ENTIRE 10 week cycle. :eek2:
 
dbol only w/o Aromatase inhibitor (AI). bloated like a bitch haha. Dumbest mistake i made.

AND NOT RUNNING HCG... though we dont have to have it. I would suggest people to take to make PCT just so much easier esp running shit like deca, tren.
 
tballz said:
Not eating enough is definitely one of them but another one is the use of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to get my estrogen under control. At first I just used tamox to keep gyno away but had the horrible side effects of high estrogen and couldn't figure out what my problem was.
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I didn't use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) either for my first cycle. For some reason, after 3 years of research prior first cycle I never really considered an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to be worthy. Other forums have "first cycle stickies" that say test e or c for 10-12 wks with nolva pct 40/40/20/20. That's exactly what I did and the side effects of high estrogen hit me during post cycle therapy (pct). The cramps, fatigue, and feeling of being drained almost killed me. My strength and energy decrease significantly and I started to hold noticeably more fluid. Not to mention the onset of panic attacks and anxiety bs. Never again.

Had bloodwork done while experiencing all these sides and free and total test levels were high most likely due to the clomid that I had started taking. If only I was smart enough to check my estro levels that would've been interesting.
 
tkasch30 said:
you do a cycle with 28% bf and no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) but im an F ing idiot for asking a question...hmmmmm
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Actually yes you are.. That's meant for people who had mistakes so others can avoid them , and yes start your own thread
 
JimiThing said:
Share yours to help people learn from your experience.
I will go first. My first mistake I ever made was not eating enough. It took quite some time before I realized just how much you really need to eat to grow.
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Great thread buddy.. Thnx
 
well i guess i do remember something silly i did when i first started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). i was injecting with 18g pins for a couple months. i couldn't figure out why i kept bleeding so much after an injection lol i wasn't paying attention and the clinic had sent me syringes with the 23g pin on them, and the 18g pins as the extras. so i would draw with the syringe with the 23g pin on it, then i would replace the pin with a fresh one which was the 18g. i didn't realize i had to take off the 23g, put the 18g on there, then draw, then put the 23g back on there lol
 
Read some guru's advice on short 4-6 week cycles and the benefits of these. So to clarify being on 4-6 then off 4-6. Waste of time completely because right as you were seeing gains you stopped. I didnt feel the recovery time was any shorter than a 12 week cycle and my gains were not as great. Glad I tried this for about 3 cycles because I know now it definetly isnt for me.
 
I was to slow to change. I was using nolva on cycle for years after AI's were available. I guess looking back while I think its smart not to jump on every bandwagon, I was too cautious making some changes like the switch to an AI.
 
Eating way too much on my first cycle which was a bulk and trying to "cut naturally" afterwards, I prefer to sacrifice some gains but not gain tons of fat. Once you cut if you do it naturally you WILL lose a lot of those gains
 
i didnt like pinning a muscle that i was going to either train that day or the next , keep a few days away from the muscle u pin to when u train it because the pip seems to get much worse , sometimes can hardly move that muscle and train it
 
3ct said:
well i guess i do remember something silly i did when i first started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). i was injecting with 18g pins for a couple months. i couldn't figure out why i kept bleeding so much after an injection lol i wasn't paying attention and the clinic had sent me syringes with the 23g pin on them, and the 18g pins as the extras. so i would draw with the syringe with the 23g pin on it, then i would replace the pin with a fresh one which was the 18g. i didn't realize i had to take off the 23g, put the 18g on there, then draw, then put the 23g back on there lol
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lol, ouch..
I draw with an 18g needle as well, first time I gave it to my wife to stick me and she's like "oh, shit that's huge" (that's what she said when we first hooked up too btw)..- then I put the 23g pin on.
 
fancyhuh101 said:
i didnt like pinning a muscle that i was going to either train that day or the next , keep a few days away from the muscle u pin to when u train it because the pip seems to get much worse , sometimes can hardly move that muscle and train it
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whenever i pinned my shoulder is always hurt when i went to sleep, it was sore :(
 
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