Cycle Question

[Jmo1972]

Hi, this will be my first cycle and any info would be greatly appreciated. I've done some research and decided to do:
- 300mg of test cypionate per week
- 80 mg ED of Anavar
Does anyone have any experience with this stack? If so, should I take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and Aromasin during this cycle? Should I also take Clomid for PCT, or since my test dosage is so low, there no reason for me to take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or Aromasin, nor do I need to do PCT?
Again, thanks in advance for the info.

 

[fancyhuh101]

if u are planning on gaining muscle form this cycle , standard first cycle id go 500mg per week , any reason why u only want 300 ? u can either take the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) entire , or at the end before pct , i would still suggest using it even at a lower dose , same as the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) , i would use one for sure , clomid for pct is good , it would work fine , but clmoid nolva would be even better

 

[fancyhuh101]

and yes , u definetly still need a pct

 

[halfwit]

What Fancy said, but I'd like to add that you'll see more of what you're looking for at 500mg/wk. There's a sticky that details the difference between 300mg and 600mg a week. Definitely worth a read. Keep in mind, adding ANY exogenous test will shut you down, so a PCT is ALWAYS required unless you're on TRT/blast and cruising.

My .02c

 

[Jmo1972]

Thank you both for the quick response.

I am trying to gain lean muscle mass, while losing body fat. I read that you can do that with test between 300mg-600mg, 300mg being the minimum if you wanted any type of gains. Anything below 300mg is a waste. In the article it also said that you got more gains but also increased the likelihood of side effects the higher the dosage. That's why I went with 300mg thinking that I would have very minimal side effects and would not have to invest in Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), Aromasin, and Clomids. I guess even at that low of dosage I still need all three, based on your advice, is that correct?

 

[fancyhuh101]

yes u will still need all 3 , u can control and wont have sides if u are running aromasin to control estrogen , 500-600mg wil provide u with more lean mass , just stick to the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and keep you diet healthy and good in order to gain as much lean fat free mass as possible , and very high protein.

 

[Jmo1972]

Again, thank you for the information, and I apologize for All the questions.

Will those three items help with water retention, as well? I heard that's another side effect. I drink 1-1 1/2 gallons a day. Also, any place you can recommend to the three items and what dosage of each would you recommend?

Should I increase my dosage of anavar?

Thanks in advance for all the advice.

 

[fancyhuh101]

your anavar dosage is the good , drinking water will help out alot on cycle , try to drink as much as u can and keep your sodium intake low to minimize water retention , it will also help with acne , the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will help prevent water retention yes , look up at the board sponsor at the top of the page RUI for clomid and aromasin or arimidex , for the hcg i cant realy help you , just do a little internet search . only aromasin will help with water retention , thats all u need on cycle , hcg is only used at the end of cycle to kicksatrt the testes again , and clomid is used in pct for the same reason , nothing to do with water retention , u will lose most in pct

 

[Jmo1972]

Thanks for the helpful information, I really appreciate it. What dosage should I take of Aromasin? Thanks for recommending RUI, I will definitely try them.

 

[unknown21]

Good luck with your cycle Jmo!

 

[Jmo1972]

Thanks

 

[Jmo1972]

Actually, don't worry about the dosage. I'm going to start out at 5mg ED and go from there. Thanks again for your help.

 

[Nightmare007]

Read this
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycleing-beginners-guide-your-first-cycle.html

 

[Jmo1972]

Ok guys I upped my dosage to 500mgs (250 on Monday and 250 on Thursday, thanks nightmare for that link). My issue is that I'm starting to breakout, at my age, I can't believe it. I haven't had a zit in forever and now they are sprouting up all over. I take a shower after my morning workout and a shower after my mid afternoon work out. Is there something I should be taking to combat the acne? Also, I can't find the Aromasin in tab form so I'm thinking about getting the liquid form, but I read that liquid form can be unstable. Do you know if that's true or if the liquid version is fine. Also, when they say liquid does it mean its injectable or administered orally? Thanks again for all of your help.

 

[halfwit]

Ok guys I upped my dosage to 500mgs (250 on Monday and 250 on Thursday, thanks nightmare for that link). My issue is that I'm starting to breakout, at my age, I can't believe it. I haven't had a zit in forever and now they are sprouting up all over. I take a shower after my morning workout and a shower after my mid afternoon work out. Is there something I should be taking to combat the acne? Also, I can't find the Aromasin in tab form so I'm thinking about getting the liquid form, but I read that liquid form can be unstable. Do you know if that's true or if the liquid version is fine. Also, when they say liquid does it mean its injectable or administered orally? Thanks again for all of your help.

An Aromatase inhibitor (AI) can help with that acne. I've never heard of a liquid being less "stable" and have always had great results from liquid AI's.

 

[Tbone1968]

This makes me want to ask a similar question Im on hrt tho.

Cyp 200 / week hgh 2 iu 5/2 and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) ed. Im adding anavar. I guess i'll go to 80 mg. and as i just read ishould go to 500 mg on the cyp But like I said im on hrt not a Cycle i will only cycle anavar for 6 weeks you think or 8? I knowi cant take it the whole year im looking to gain mass and lean up on the midsection i dont have gyno issues right now do you think i should get aromasin just in case ?

Any help is sppreciated.

 

[Tbone1968]

Amyone???

 

[Roush]

Tbone
If your on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), just bump your test dosage up to 500 mg wk..(250mg mon and thurs) for 10-12 weeks. Take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) .5 mg EOd. Then at the end go back to your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol of 150-200 test a week.
U should gain good mass with proper diet and lifting
Personal opinion, I wouldn't mess with the var. u can lean out back on your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol

 

[Tbone1968]

Tnx Roush. Wich Aromatase inhibitor (AI) do you recommend ?

 

[Roush]

Tnx Roush. Wich Aromatase inhibitor (AI) do you recommend ?

U said u were on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), right?
Your doc or clinic should have already prescribed u anastrazole/ arimidex .. If not just tell them ur nips are tender and ask them to get u an Aromatase inhibitor (AI).
Without asking, my clinic sends me anastrazole with every order of testosterone (they also send me Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with that as well)