D-bol for first 3-4 weeks of cycle, or entire 12 week cycle?

MrDude808

MrDude808

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I'm slowly planning my very first cycle which will consist of D-bol and Test E (and post cycle therapy (pct) medications of course). I know a lot of people are kind of iffy about using D-bol for first cycle, but, I want a good little jump start. But I'm a little confused on how long to use the D-Bol for. Here is what I'm planning my first cycle to be..

Weeks 1-4: D-bol @ 40mg a day
Weeks 1-12: Test E @ 400mg a week
And I'll have some Nolvadex handy in case gyno symptoms occur.

Would this be a good cycle? I heard some people say run D-bol for the entire cycle.. is that necessary? Would that result in any better gains? Or should I just stick to using it for the first few weeks?
 
MrDude808 said:
I'm slowly planning my very first cycle which will consist of D-bol and Test E (and post cycle therapy (pct) medications of course). I know a lot of people are kind of iffy about using D-bol for first cycle, but, I want a good little jump start. But I'm a little confused on how long to use the D-Bol for. Here is what I'm planning my first cycle to be..

Weeks 1-4: D-bol @ 40mg a day
Weeks 1-12: Test E @ 400mg a week
And I'll have some Nolvadex handy in case gyno symptoms occur.

Would this be a good cycle? I heard some people say run D-bol for the entire cycle.. is that necessary? Would that result in any better gains? Or should I just stick to using it for the first few weeks?
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Well i damn sure wouldnt run it the whole cycle. Hell, i wouldnt run it at all if its your first cycle. But like you said, you want a jump start. I wouldnt run it any longer than the first 4 weeks. Thats it. Keep the Nolva on hand. This is your first cycle. Keep it simple. Dont stack any other oils, reason being, if you start having some side effects, reactions or anything, you wont know which one it is causing the problem. With that being said, me personally, i would save the Dbol for next time.

Oh fuck. I forgot. How old are you?
 
BigNasty88 said:
Well i damn sure wouldnt run it the whole cycle. Hell, i wouldnt run it at all if its your first cycle. But like you said, you want a jump start. I wouldnt run it any longer than the first 4 weeks. Thats it. Keep the Nolva on hand. This is your first cycle. Keep it simple. Dont stack any other oils, reason being, if you start having some side effects, reactions or anything, you wont know which one it is causing the problem. With that being said, me personally, i would save the Dbol for next time.

Oh fuck. I forgot. How old are you?
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My stats:
I'm 21
187lb
14% BF
Been training for 5 years (but got serious about working out for the last 2 years) :wink2:
 
Bro I would like to tell you to wait at least another year, maybe two, but that never does any good. At least youll do it right. NO DBOL. Fuck that. Save that shit. Test E will be more than good enough for your first cycle. Make sure your post cycle therapy (pct) is mapped out to a Tee. You also need to check your diet. 80% of your gains are gonna come from your diet. Check out the diet section that 3J runs, and find out the best plan for you. I dont eat clean enough myself to be giving you advice on that. Good Luck my man.
 
BigNasty88 said:
Bro I would like to tell you to wait at least another year, maybe two, but that never does any good. At least youll do it right. NO DBOL. Fuck that. Save that shit. Test E will be more than good enough for your first cycle. Make sure your post cycle therapy (pct) is mapped out to a Tee. You also need to check your diet. 80% of your gains are gonna come from your diet. Check out the diet section that 3J runs, and find out the best plan for you. I dont eat clean enough myself to be giving you advice on that. Good Luck my man.
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Thanks man, appreciate the help.
 
you don't want to run dbol more then 7 wks do to its bad on the liver. But 4 wks is the norm just for a jump start for a cycle.
 
With the proper set up and making sure the liver is protected to the best of the ability, an oral can be ran the entire cyle depending on dosages. However, your seeking advice on your first cycle and I would nto suggest running dbol for more than 6 weeks max.
 
Test only for a first cycle will be a big jump start from your current training. Save extras like dbol for later cycles to jump start those. Read other newbies who have issues starting out...the less you are taking in the easier it will be for you to figure out what is going wrong or what to adjust. Basically all the vets recommend test only for first cycle.
 
First-I agree with everyone else 4-6 weeks MAX for the DBOL if you decide to run it for your first cycle (it is VERY hard on the liver).

Second-If you ARE going to run the Dbol I would run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout the cycle or at least have one on hand for possible sides.

Third-Dbol MIGHT do more harm than good- makes SOME, very lethargic. Meaning that you will have to do extra work to get same gains (decreases appetite, sleepiness etc). So make sure that you have everything else in check or it WILL be a waste of time.

Hope that helps!
 
Dude if you want a jump start while keeping it a simple test only then hit the first 4 weeks with test P. I just started my first cycle this past sunday.

Test P weeks 1-4 300mg/pw: 100mg EOD
Test E weeks 1-12 500mg/pw: 250mg twice a week

That way you start seeing results and feeling the test in the first week or so rather than 3-5 weeks later like you would with test e alone.

Only thing ill say is test P is kind of a bitch... I know i still have virgin muscles but fuck me am i sore after P. No pain no gain though haha.

BTW im 24 and 179lbs so im pretty close to you. I started a log in the Cycle log section (first cycle, test E and test P) if you wanna check it out and see how fast Prop gets things moving. Ill be posting pics tomorrow and through my cycle.

Best of luck
 
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Some medical evidence suggests that you epiphyseal growth plates do not fully close until age 25. Your skeleton may still be growing and taking testosterone now may close them permanently. This will prevent your bones from growing to their natural length. You may want to consider this prior to cycling.
 
I waited till I was 25, even though I wanted to use them at 22. You're young man. Enjoy eating healthy, hitting the gym hard, and doing things natural till you're ready for an AAS cycle.
 
I appreciate all the help guys. I know it would be most wise to wait till 25 when I've basically halted all natural growth.. but I feel like I'm ready, and I know the risks. I've been researching for a good 2 years now (not hardcore research but you know, the need to know stuff). And from basically what I took from all the comments, only use the Dbol for the first 4 weeks max or don't use it at all first cycle. I'm still several weeks away from when I plan to start my cycle, so I'll have a definitive answer to if I will use it or not by then :biggthump
 
40 for 6 weeks sounds great........its making me want to start a course tomorrow.

someone above said dbol makes them feel like shit.......it has the exact opposite effect on me. most people get a sense of well-being while on dbol. and the strength gains are top notch.

anadrol is what makes me feel like shit.

PS your too young for steroids.
 
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