Dbol only cycle
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I will be dosing 20mgs a day. 9am and 5pm. I am using milk thistle and an estrogen blocker, I have only ever used the natural supps (creatine, whey protein, beta alanine ect..) Any advice would be helpful, what have you found to be the best working post cycle therapy (pct)? I am only using short cycle, 4 weeks. so 20mgs a day, and ill taper down the last six days. 15, 15, 10, 10, 5, 5.
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doitright24
Mi manchi papà.
no, no, no.....your first cycle should be test, and test only. no dbol at all yet. try a 500mg a week @ 250mg every three days of Test E., that is a starter cycle. be sure to have your post cycle therapy (pct) ready, and anti e on hand just in case. i wouldnt even think about dbol only for a cycle, much less for a first cycle. do more research......what are your stats?
mlc31
I am banned!
^^^^listen to him.
your body makes testosterone naturally man, it is the most basic and simple cycle you can possibly conceive of.
it is also a necessary hormone for your body to function naturally and normally. sure, blasting the levels up high throws off hormonal balance and more converts to estrogen which can also have its side effects... but you can use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to help control that if it becomes an issue.
using dbol will make your body stop producing testosterone entirely. you may be fine, you may have no issues, everyone's body is different. but here are some common issues people have:
erectile dysfunction - mood swings, depression and other emotional issues - fat storage
etc.
in addition to it NOT having several of the side effects commonly associate with orals like liver damage, etc.
why wouldn't you want to keep this crucial hormone, as rj put it, the hormone that makes you a man, in your system during a cycle? it is only the most important aas you can put into ANY cycle, regardless of your goals.
just wondering why you don't want to use it? i'm assuming you're afraid of injections and/or think that on principle anything requiring injections is hardcore and orals are like the more chilled out less potentially harmful side.
kinda like weed vs cocaine, crack, heroine, etc. ?
that perception, if in fact is one you share, is totally off base, just so you know.
now sit back and read the next 50 posts which will all say the exact same thing.
oh, yeah, and post your stats. a lot of people wanting to get into steroids really don't need them yet/aren't ready for them yet. let us know your age/height/weight/bf%/training experience/nutrition knowledge/experience/implementation etc.
it is also a necessary hormone for your body to function naturally and normally. sure, blasting the levels up high throws off hormonal balance and more converts to estrogen which can also have its side effects... but you can use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to help control that if it becomes an issue.
using dbol will make your body stop producing testosterone entirely. you may be fine, you may have no issues, everyone's body is different. but here are some common issues people have:
erectile dysfunction - mood swings, depression and other emotional issues - fat storage
etc.
in addition to it NOT having several of the side effects commonly associate with orals like liver damage, etc.
why wouldn't you want to keep this crucial hormone, as rj put it, the hormone that makes you a man, in your system during a cycle? it is only the most important aas you can put into ANY cycle, regardless of your goals.
just wondering why you don't want to use it? i'm assuming you're afraid of injections and/or think that on principle anything requiring injections is hardcore and orals are like the more chilled out less potentially harmful side.
kinda like weed vs cocaine, crack, heroine, etc. ?
that perception, if in fact is one you share, is totally off base, just so you know.
now sit back and read the next 50 posts which will all say the exact same thing.
oh, yeah, and post your stats. a lot of people wanting to get into steroids really don't need them yet/aren't ready for them yet. let us know your age/height/weight/bf%/training experience/nutrition knowledge/experience/implementation etc.
crustasblunt
Zairon Hardstyler
Hey bro , you in luck because i've actually just started my second only dboll cycle , and alot of people have told me on here that you keep no results , but im gonna be honest with you man i dont know how , but the 1st cycle i literly kept almost everything i gained , maybe it was some kind of fluke but idont think so because i hada friend do it with me and he also kept most of his gains , but thwese guys here are definitely right about taking test-e as a 1st cycle , i was mis-informed and did with the dboll, but i've been alright seeying decent results , will try test-e next time , if you have any questions just ask
crustasblunt
Zairon Hardstyler
your deifnitiely right , hey Grizz22 just talk to this guy you'll probobly get better info from him then me , im on the same level as you so lol
they may very well be. mine were at nearly 28 when i started my first cycle (by the way i'm new to this, and came into my research thinking i'd do oral only first for the same reasons, stanazolol (winny) because i'm an athlete and didn't want to "bloat" and all this stuff..... but i researched some and was kinda like hmmm.... something doesn't sound right. lol.
test levels being high.... high is like.... 1000-1500, like above average high level of high..... a testosterone cycle will have you in the multi-thousands. higher test levels will promote faster protein synthesis, faster recovery among a host of other things.
dbol does this also.... but it rids your body of test while doing it. if you don't put that test in you from the outside, you will just have a body with no testosterone. it just makes sense to keep test in you. overall, your body will appreciate it even if you don't have any of the common major issues.
at 6'0 190, what's your bf like? how's your diet? what's your training like?
at 25 years old and those measurements there's a good chance you could get over 200 without too much hassle with some food and training changes. before thinking about steroids make sure you've learned how to properly grow without them. no matter what drugs you pump into your system, ultimately, your ability to make gains and maintains is going to rest on your ability to eat and train properly for whatever your goal is. same thing with dieting. there are drugs which speed up your metabolism, that get your body generating heat and burning extra calories, that help speed nutrient deliver so more can be used for growth and building than turns to fat. etc. etc. but without knowing how to properly control your eating and training to lose fat effectively, none of it will last and it will just be a very unhealthy way to take nice car for a test-drive around the lot only to get back and have to climb back into that jetta your girlfriend keyed last week.
just sayin...
oh yeah, and as for the needles, plenty of people are hesitant about them. the reality is they are nothing to worry about. i'm new to this game but i've stuck myself something like 50+ times or so already, it's no big deal. you learn the spot, you learn the techniques, you make a few mistakes, you get in your groove, and then BAM, cycle's over and you wish you could keep ramming metal into your flesh and deep into muscle fibers.
doitright24
Mi manchi papà.
injections are actually less hardcore than orals man....and a shit ton better for you. do not do an oral only cycle for your first, find some test e and do it. you will not regret it, and if you do do dbol only, you WILL NOT keep 80% or anywhere near what you get. how you came up with that i dont know, but imo it is impossible....correct me if i am wrong vets.....
BMI:25.8
BF%: 15%
As far as diet goes, nothing is set, before training ill eat something like peanutbutter and banana sandwiches, something with a descent amout of fat too it so that burns during workouts, I lean towards proteins afterworks outs, things suck as lots of chicken or tuna. An deffinaley many carbs for dinner like pastas.
Training 4 days a week. mon, tues, thurs, fri.
And I know you reccomend a test only cycle for first cycle. but later on what if I just took test booster tabs with dbol?
BF%: 15%
As far as diet goes, nothing is set, before training ill eat something like peanutbutter and banana sandwiches, something with a descent amout of fat too it so that burns during workouts, I lean towards proteins afterworks outs, things suck as lots of chicken or tuna. An deffinaley many carbs for dinner like pastas.
Training 4 days a week. mon, tues, thurs, fri.
And I know you reccomend a test only cycle for first cycle. but later on what if I just took test booster tabs with dbol?
Italiano SPO
La possiedo il figlio
This ranks up there with one of the worst cycles I've seen. As brother Teutonic stated......DISASTER
Italiano SPO
La possiedo il figlio
If you're afraid of injecting, quit wasting your time and just train naturally. These ideas you keep coming up with that don't include Test are stupid.
doitright24
Mi manchi papà.
ok, which one of yall are we talking to here???? get your diet right first and foremost....... getting size is 80% diet. and no, test boosters will not do the job with dbol, get some test e and do a cycle.......
nothing to boost bro. a few ground up seeds and essence of this or that isn't going to compete with the hpta destroying potency of some dbol.
first thing i'd do is get over to the diet forum and get with those guys to help get you on the right path. my guess is within the next few months you'll be able to pack on a few pounds naturally getting that stuff in check.
not saying you think it is, but this stuff is really no joke. before you step into a potentially dangerous game, be sure you've taken steps to be as prepared as you possibly can. the diet forum would be step 1. steroids would be like step 6. gotta walk before you run.
the mod over in the diet forum, 3J. he knows his stuff with nutrition, and for one reason or another he's committed to helping people get their (food) life on track, or back on track. get on his forum, post on his thread, and he'll set you up bro.
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