Dbol only why is it bad?

rocko419

Hello ???
OK I’m about to ask a question that might make someone laugh or call me a dumb ass. But anyhow hear it goes. Obviously I know it’s not good to do an oral only cycle like for instance dbol only.
But Dbol and lets say Deca will be fine. The question is why? Why is an oral only bad I mean ok so maybe it’s bad for your liver but what it isn’t bad for your liver if you take it with Deca? Maybe I once new or maybe I never really new why what ever the case someone please tell me the answer. Thanks Mike......
 
bro any oral Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is bad for ur liver.. u must learn to inject.. doesn't hurt that bad man.. i mean not at all.. just a sharp pain aspirating and pulling out :/
 
SleepingGiant said:
bro any oral Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is bad for ur liver.. u must learn to inject.. doesn't hurt that bad man.. i mean not at all.. just a sharp pain aspirating and pulling out :/

No don't get me wrong I shoot thats all I have ever done. Beleive it or not i never even did dbol yet and i have done about 5 or 6 cycles over time. I.m just trying to get a lagit reason for my question
 
ok then, read this.
Oral Steroids vs. Injectable Steroids
Ben Johnson?

In theory, injectable steroids are safer to take because they do not have to be digested (as oral steroids do). People that consider taking steroids generally have the problem that they will not be able to inject the drug into themselves. This makes oral steroids very popular in the underground bodybuilding community. Oral steroids are said to be harder on the liver than injectable steroids. This is proven to be true. Oral steroids have a shorter “half-life” than injectable steroids. A “half-life” basically is how long a steroid stays in your system. Because of the shorter “half lives” of oral steroids, they only last 3-5hours per pill. Therefore, oral steroids need to be taken several times a day. This puts immense strain on the liver. Yet, if you are a beginner to steroids and are not sure of yourself with injections - then there is the danger of missing the target area and inadvertently injecting the drug directly into a tendon. This can lead to a clot, that will lead to death provided it is not caught by a surgeon in time. Steroids are advertised to increase the size of your muscles. Keeping in mind the heart is also a muscle, steroids increase the size of that as well. Steroid use has been proven to reduce the amount of HDL cholesterol (good cholesterol) and to increase the amount of LDL cholesterol (bad cholesterol). This is very dangerous and can lead to a heart attack.

Many athletes overlook the harmful effects of steroid abuse and decide to pump the drugs into their bodies. The fastest man alive (Ben Johnson) beat Carl Lewis at the 100-metre dash with an incredible time of 9.79 seconds in the year 1988. It was discovered that Johnson had traces of steroids in his urine. This nullified his world record and stripped him of the gold medal. Yes, that power, that speed, that physique; it all comes with a price. In this case, it was not his long term health (at least not yet) but rather his honour and dignity as an athlete and a human-being.

Weightlifters and professional bodybuilders strive for perfection through un-natural substitutes themselves. In Greg Valentino’s case, perfection is not what he chose to go for; but rather past that point. He decided he wanted to go past the point of perfection, to the point of the disgusting freak that he is today. Despite Greg’s use with steroids, he is actually quite famous. Actually, infamous would be the correct term. Infamous for his grotesque 27-inch arms.

In achieving a bodybuilding goal naturally, a lifter will definitely feel better about himself. Building natural mass only costs you the work you put into it. A hardcore steroid user can decrease their life span by greater than 20 years. Why risk it? Dedication and proper nutrition is the foundation to building a healthy, natural body.
 
I know someone who has run 5 - 6 dbol only cycles @ 50 mgs ed for 3 months, results, he went from having 15 inch arms to 17 +, he also isnt prone to gyno so no bitch tits at all. Problems, lost some hair and gained a decent amount of body fat. I wouldnt recommend it cause gyno is a problem with dbol for most of us. If you're dead set then start slow and look out for puffy nipples. Honestly its a shitty steroid and you may get some size @ 50 mgs ed but it aint gonna be quality, mostly quantity.
 
Deca and dbol.. thats just as bad as dbol.. I dont believe orals are bad.. Ill be the first to say that people who preach to you orals will harm you and you shouldnt take them, thats not totally correct.. I believe its so overlooked its not funny.. I do however believe you shouldnt run any steroid without test though. But personally dbol wont hurt you if its here and there.. it will if its taken excessively, just be smart and take a good dosage and you will be fine.
 
OK guys I understand what you guys are saying but still why is it bad to do dbol by it self but it's not bad to do dbol with some test? That simple why! either way the dbol goes through you liver right. And one more thing I have absolutely no intention on doing dbol only I just want to know why you should’ent.
 
A dbol and deca cycle sounds like a train wreck to me.
Why would you want to run a dbol cycle for 4 weeks or so while running deca for 10 to 12 weeks unless you have something against your dick and are asking for a dose of gyno that is hard to control. Progesterone induced gyno isnt fun and the dbol will just kick things off in the wrong direction. If you want high BP the go right ahead and try that cycle. By the 6th week you will be bloated, your dick will be dead, your nips will be puffy and growing, hell, you will be the talk of the town. LOL.
Dbol by itself, I have concluded is nearly worthless. It has it's place when stacked, but only when stacked with another compound that it is sysnergistic with and to be honest I cant really find too many positives to say about dbol because of the tendency for dbol gains to dissapear rapidly upon cessation of the drug.

You want gains that will stick??? Try test and deca @ 2:1 with proper ancillaries and post cycle therapy (pct). It works flawlessly everytime.
 
Strega said:
A dbol and deca cycle sounds like a train wreck to me.
Why would you want to run a dbol cycle for 4 weeks or so while running deca for 10 to 12 weeks unless you have something against your dick and are asking for a dose of gyno that is hard to control. Progesterone induced gyno isnt fun and the dbol will just kick things off in the wrong direction. If you want high BP the go right ahead and try that cycle. By the 6th week you will be bloated, your dick will be dead, your nips will be puffy and growing, hell, you will be the talk of the town. LOL.
Dbol by itself, I have concluded is nearly worthless. It has it's place when stacked, but only when stacked with another compound that it is sysnergistic with and to be honest I cant really find too many positives to say about dbol because of the tendency for dbol gains to dissapear rapidly upon cessation of the drug.

You want gains that will stick??? Try test and deca @ 2:1 with proper ancillaries and post cycle therapy (pct). It works flawlessly everytime.


Ok cool and I just used deca as an example i guess that was a bad one thats why i then said dbol and test. And I guess that's why I never did dbol because of the rapid loss of gains. So i have read. I was just woundering about the whole thing. I really have no plans on even doing dbol. I do want to keep what I gain. That;s why I try to stay with test Prop and npp I don't mind the slow gains because they are always good solid gains I make.
 
orals can't be that bad... think of the shit u swallowed b4 u even touched steroids.... nitrix pump/tribulus/energy pills/mild prohormone pills basically all those orals they sell at the supplement store. think about it, i know u once that all those garbage shit they sold at the supplement store was gonna help u look like superman but now that u have done the real shit u feel better ur takin vitamin s... lol. My point is u started paluting ur liver long time ago. get my cheesy theory??
I personally think if ur taking ur blood/liver tests and not taking orals for long periods of time ur ok. I have been there done that. sorry man I hope u dont think i am coming across disrespecting u, this was just my thought.



ps.. i believe test is good to use with deca to counter good old impotence.
 
Presario..

I wish I posessed the amount of knowledge it would take to tell you WHY orals were bad in language/mannerisms that you would accept and appreciate.

All I can tell you, is that google is your friend.. You do not want to start doing roids w/ that type of attitude. I realize that you say "if you are taking blood/liver tests and not taking for long period of time.." but the fact is that you advocate oral usage or you wouldn't have replied on it.

What, to you, constitutes long term usage? past 10 weeks? 14 weeks?

Idk man I really can't articulate on this topic like I would be able to.. I just .. KNOW.. its wrong.
 
Presario2200 said:
"A hardcore steroid user can decrease their life span by greater than 20 years. Why risk it? "

whats everyone's thought on this?

Define "hardcore"

I do not think I will lose 1 year of my life due to this.. perhaps I will live longer.
 
SleepingGiant said:
Presario..

I wish I posessed the amount of knowledge it would take to tell you WHY orals were bad in language/mannerisms that you would accept and appreciate.

All I can tell you, is that google is your friend.. You do not want to start doing roids w/ that type of attitude. I realize that you say "if you are taking blood/liver tests and not taking for long period of time.." but the fact is that you advocate oral usage or you wouldn't have replied on it.

What, to you, constitutes long term usage? past 10 weeks? 14 weeks?

Idk man I really can't articulate on this topic like I would be able to.. I just .. KNOW.. its wrong.



well i can't touch the topic to much.. honestly only orals i have ever done were var/winnie/dbol... dbol max was 4 weeks, var 4 weeks, winnie 6 weeks(FYI they were not all taken at the same time).... ill do a cycle every 3 months or so... but now im gonna stick with some milder shit like tbol or primo...
 
SleepingGiant said:
" but the fact is that you advocate oral usage or you wouldn't have replied on it.


why do u make it seem like im advertising oral use... its not for beginners i know that, but i was trying to make a point that ppl who have taken or take alot of shit sold on the shelves are jeopardizing their livers too man.
 
SleepingGiant said:
I know its from the article I posted, I was simply saying that you can't define "hardcore" usage.. I can't define "hardcore" usage..



well hopefully i live a yr longer as well... but u never know, pritty much anything u eat,drink, breath is bad for u these days..
 
lets just squash it

no worries people will do w/e they want to do no matter what you say.. you nor I.. I just personally don't believe that you can compare Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) to supliments.. if they caused liver damage i'm sure there would be some advisories or something b/c they would get sued.. the thing with Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is.. who u gonna sue? you're doin something illegal.
 
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